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30 From: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>
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31 To: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>,
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33 Subject: Re: on deleting messages
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56 On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:01:45 -0800, Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net> wrote:
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57 > Now that Austin's excellent tag exclusion patch set [0] has been pushed,
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58 > the question remains if we want to support any delete-handling key
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59 > bindings in emacs.
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61 > Based on the show-mode improvements I recently sent [1], the following
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62 > patch set implements thread and message delete keys.
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64 > This is the last I'm going to comment on this issue. If we don't want
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65 > to support this, we should put together something on the wiki that
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66 > states we don't want to support it and that users should just bind it
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67 > themselves (with a nice explanation how), so that we can try to reduce
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68 > the number of future patches on the issue.
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70 > Given the number of patches we've had on this issue, though, it's clear
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71 > that a lot of people expect this functionality, so we may want to
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72 > seriously consider supporting it. Given Austin's tag exclusion stuff,
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73 > and the fact that "deleted" tags are excluded by default, we now have
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74 > the functionality that Carl originally wanted to see, so it's not so
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75 > unreasonable to support this functionality anymore.
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77 I think it's reasonable to consider having key bindings (or other
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78 special handling) for pretty much *any* tags that are special to
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79 notmuch: inbox, unread, draft, flagged, etc. (An exhaustive list should
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80 be documented somewhere.)
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82 Looking at the source and history, I have to admit there has been
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83 intent, and code, to have support for "deleted" tag. See for example
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86 And I agree there has been demand for this.
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88 I say let's have this.
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90 But make it clear that "deleted" is just a tag; that the messages aren't
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91 going away, not by notmuch anyway.
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97 [1] commit 2c262042ac174d7bc96d6035ab9c88bd0abe7f35
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