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  31 From: Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>\r
  32 To: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>, David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,\r
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  34 Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] notmuch-new: block database upgrades in default\r
  35         configuration.\r
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  65 On Sun, Mar 23 2014, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
  66 > We really have very few configuration options, and so far none of them\r
  67 > are such that we could make the decision for the user. I think in this\r
  68 > case pushing the responsibility to the user would be just *us* being\r
  69 > paranoid. What does that tell our users?\r
  70 >\r
  71 > I also think the user should consider doing backups before upgrading\r
  72 > notmuch in the first place. I am generally more concerned about the user\r
  73 > doing a database dump of the old database version using the new notmuch\r
  74 > than doing the upgrade. (Although in this case I think we're fine unless\r
  75 > the user decides 'notmuch dump folder:important' is enough.)\r
  76 \r
  77 Sorry for the delay responding to this.\r
  78 \r
  79 I really think the right way to handle a database upgrade is:\r
  80 \r
  81 * fail notmuch new (with appropriate message) if run in quiet mode\r
  82 * prompt user yes/no to upgrade database otherwise\r
  83 \r
  84 This will allow all users to acknowledge the upgrade and do the\r
  85 appropriate thing, regardless of configuration, without adding a new\r
  86 config option.\r
  87 \r
  88 jamie.\r
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