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36 From: Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz>
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37 To: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
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38 Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] devel/emacs: add devel/try-emacs-mua
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63 On Sun, Dec 20 2015, Tomi Ollila wrote:
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64 > devel/try-emacs-mua provides an easy way to try and experiment
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65 > with the notmuch emacs client distributed in emacs subdirectory of
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66 > the notmuch source tree.
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68 > try-emacs-mua starts a new emacs process and if initial checks pass
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69 > *scratch* buffer is filled with information of how to begin.
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71 > User can add normal emacs flags, like -q, -Q and e.g. -f notmuch. Any
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72 > given plain filename arguments are filtered out (with message).
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74 Why are plain files filtered? Yesterday, when I experimented with
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75 jl-encrypt.el, I started emacs like:
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77 emacs -Q --directory ... --load notmuch.el /tmp/jl-encrypt.el
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79 This allowed me to experiment with it (edebug), modify it and restart
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80 emacs sessions easily without the need to type C-x C-f and the file name
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83 > If the emacs version in use is smaller than 24.4, special care is taken
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84 > to ensure that notmuch*.elc files older than corresponding .el files
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85 > are not loaded. Since emacs 24.4, setting `load-prefer-newer' variable
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86 > takes care of this.
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89 > Now all-elisp, vs v3: id:1447457397-11688-1-git-send-email-tomi.ollila@iki.fi
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91 > In id:87si4bwrsu.fsf@qmul.ac.uk Mark had some thoughts if something from this
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92 > could perhaps be used as some idea how to improve test testing. We'll have
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93 > to think more of that later. Rest of the review is pretty much irrelevant
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94 > for this (But I fixed that particular bug before turning to this ;).
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96 > devel/try-emacs-mua | 153 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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97 > 1 file changed, 153 insertions(+)
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98 > create mode 100755 devel/try-emacs-mua
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100 > diff --git a/devel/try-emacs-mua b/devel/try-emacs-mua
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101 > new file mode 100755
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102 > index 000000000000..1f916d2806f9
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104 > +++ b/devel/try-emacs-mua
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105 > @@ -0,0 +1,153 @@
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107 > +:; set -x; exec "${EMACS:-emacs}" --debug-init --load "$0" "$@"; exit
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109 Huh! Nice trick, especially the ":;" :)
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112 > +;; Try the notmuch emacs client located in ../notmuch/emacs directory
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114 > +;; Run this without arguments; emacs window opens with some usage information
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116 > +;; Authors: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>
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118 > +;; http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsScripts was a useful starting point...
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120 > +;; Licence: GPLv3+
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123 > +(message "Starting '%s'" load-file-name)
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125 > +(set-buffer "*scratch*")
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127 > +(setq initial-buffer-choice t) ;; *scratch* buffer
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129 > +(when (featurep 'notmuch)
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131 > +Notmuch has been loaded to this emacs (during processing of the init file)
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132 > +which means it is (most probably) loaded from different source than expected.
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134 > +Please run \"" (file-name-nondirectory load-file-name)
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135 > +"\" with '-q' (or '-Q') as an argument, to disable
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136 > +processing of the init file -- you can load it after emacs has started\n
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137 > +exit emacs (y or n)? ")
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138 > + (if (y-or-n-p "exit emacs")
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140 > + (error "Stopped reading %s" load-file-name)))
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142 > +(let ((pdir (file-name-directory
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143 > + (directory-file-name (file-name-directory load-file-name)))))
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144 > + (unless (file-exists-p (concat pdir "emacs/notmuch-lib.el"))
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145 > + (insert "Cannot find notmuch-emacs source directory
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146 > +while looking at: " pdir "emacs\n\nexit emacs (y or n)? ")
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147 > + (if (y-or-n-p "exit emacs")
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149 > + (error "Stopped reading %s" load-file-name)))
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150 > + (setq try-notmuch-source-directory (directory-file-name pdir))
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151 > + (setq try-notmuch-emacs-directory (concat pdir "emacs/"))
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152 > + (setq load-path (cons try-notmuch-emacs-directory load-path)))
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154 > +;; for logging, debugging and load tracing (broke on emacs 24.5.1 :O)
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155 > +;;(defadvice file-truename (before before-file-truename activate)
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156 > +;;;; (message "file-truename: '%s' '%s' '%s'" filename counter prev-dirs))
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157 > +;; (unless counter
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158 > +;; (message "file-truename: %s" filename)))
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160 What is the benefit of advising file-truename? Especially when you do
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161 other type of logging below. I'd prefer to have this as a comment in the
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162 file. Or is this some leftover from your experiments?
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165 > +;; they say advice doesn't work for primitives (functions from c source)
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166 > +;; well, these 'before' advice works for emacs 23.1 - 24.5 (at least)
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167 > +;; ...and for our purposes 24.3 is enough (there is no load-prefer-newer there)
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168 > +;; note also that the old, "obsolete" defadvice mechanism was used, but that
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169 > +;; is the only one available for emacs 23 and 24 up to 24.3.
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171 > +(if (boundp 'load-prefer-newer)
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172 > + (defadvice require (before before-require activate)
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173 > + (unless (featurep feature)
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174 > + (message "require: %s" feature)))
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175 > + ;; else: special require "short-circuit"; after load feature is provided...
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176 > + ;; ... in notmuch sources we always use require and there are no loops
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177 > + (defadvice require (before before-require activate)
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178 > + (unless (featurep feature)
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179 > + (message "require: %s" feature)
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180 > + (let ((name (symbol-name feature)))
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181 > + (if (and (string-match "^notmuch" name)
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182 > + (file-newer-than-file-p
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183 > + (concat try-notmuch-emacs-directory name ".el")
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184 > + (concat try-notmuch-emacs-directory name ".elc")))
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185 > + (load (concat try-notmuch-emacs-directory name ".el") nil nil t t)
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188 > +(insert "Found notmuch emacs client in " try-notmuch-emacs-directory "\n")
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190 > +(condition-case err
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191 > +;; "opportunistic" load-prefer-newer -- will be effective since emacs 24.4
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192 > + (let ((load-prefer-newer t)
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193 > + (force-load-messages t))
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194 > + (require 'notmuch))
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195 > + ;; specifying `debug' here lets the debugger run
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196 > + ;; if `debug-on-error' is non-nil.
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199 > + (insert "\nLoading notmuch failed: " (error-message-string err) "\n")
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200 > + (insert "See *Messages* buffer for more information.\n")
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201 > + (error "Stopped reading %s" load-file-name))))
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204 > +Go to the end of the following lines and type C-x C-e to evaluate
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205 > +(or C-j which is shorter but inserts evaluation results into buffer)
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207 > +To \"disable\" mail sending, evaluate
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208 > +* (setq message-send-mail-function (lambda () t))
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211 > +(if (file-exists-p (concat try-notmuch-source-directory "/notmuch"))
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213 > +To use accompanied notmuch binary from the same source, evaluate
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214 > +* (setq exec-path (cons \"" try-notmuch-source-directory "\" exec-path))
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215 > +Note: Evaluating the above may be followed by unintended database
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216 > +upgrade and getting back to old version may require dump & restore.
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219 You can also inform the user which notmuch binary will be used without
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223 > +(if init-file-user ;; nil, if '-q' or '-Q' is given, but no '-u' 'USER'
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225 > +Your init file was processed during emacs startup. If you want to test
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226 > +notmuch emacs mail client without your emacs init file interfering, Run\n\""
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227 > +(file-name-nondirectory load-file-name) "\" with '-q' (or '-Q') as an argument.
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229 > + (let ((init-file-name))
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230 > + ;; determining init file name in startup.el/command-line is too complicated
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231 > + ;; to be duplicated here; these 3 file names covers most of the users
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232 > + (mapc (lambda (fn) (if (file-exists-p fn) (setq init-file-name fn)))
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233 > + '("~/.emacs.d/init.el" "~/.emacs" "~/.emacs.el"))
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234 > + (if init-file-name
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236 > +If you want to load your emacs init file now, evaluate
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237 > +* (load \"" init-file-name "\")
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240 > +If you want to use packages (e.g. company from elpa) evaluate
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241 > +* (progn (require 'package) (package-initialize))
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245 > +To start notmuch (hello) screen, evaluate
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246 > +* (notmuch-hello)")
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248 > +(setq try-emacs-pop-messages-buffers nil)
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250 If this variable was named something like arg-ignored, the code bellow
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251 would be easier to understand.
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253 > +(add-hook 'command-line-functions
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255 > + (unless try-emacs-pop-messages-buffers (message "%s" ""))
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256 > + (message "*** Ignoring arg '%s'" argi)
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257 > + (setq try-emacs-pop-messages-buffers t)))
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259 > +(add-hook 'emacs-startup-hook
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261 > + (when try-emacs-pop-messages-buffers
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262 > + (message "%s" "")
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263 > + (message "Press 'q' to hide this window")
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265 Pressing 'q' doesn't work under Emacs 23.
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267 > + (pop-to-buffer "*Messages*"))
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268 > + (set-buffer "*scratch*")
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269 > + (lisp-interaction-mode)
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270 > + (goto-char (point-min))
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272 > + (set-buffer-modified-p nil)))
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274 > +;; Local Variables:
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275 > +;; mode: emacs-lisp
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