1 Return-Path: <markwalters1009@gmail.com>
\r
2 X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
\r
3 Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
\r
4 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
\r
5 by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C456DE02BF
\r
6 for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT)
\r
7 X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org
\r
11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.775 tagged_above=-999 required=5
\r
12 tests=[AWL=-0.205, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
\r
13 DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25,
\r
14 FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01,
\r
15 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled
\r
16 Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1])
\r
17 by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
\r
18 with ESMTP id 4K29gO3qiJKj for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>;
\r
19 Sat, 9 Apr 2016 15:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
\r
20 Received: from mail-wm0-f67.google.com (mail-wm0-f67.google.com
\r
21 [74.125.82.67]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24B726DE00BD for
\r
22 <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>; Sat, 9 Apr 2016 15:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
\r
23 Received: by mail-wm0-f67.google.com with SMTP id l6so12725626wml.3
\r
24 for <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>; Sat, 09 Apr 2016 15:41:03 -0700 (PDT)
\r
25 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
\r
26 h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id
\r
27 :mime-version; bh=1AG3MCU9jLq3m+T3TNRxafwXwJV4jPp/7TWk95TOM/A=;
\r
28 b=UiB/XacKO14eNmjtfRamSJpCVuYuy9T4mBVzjk1wcrtzEk49q5PG+A0irSZGvf3T9Z
\r
29 HfEZ5Yb0koxYWYjC4zTzOHwHkKaLaP0gWxXywXHAEYSUjrKRc0+LXgwVrN8c/WNGFITn
\r
30 YCeLray70wJG1zEnTxdDChanffumX9m6uhXavgFxJejQllKWeJ6Is7tptZH7JeSQTnHv
\r
31 jv/qNsscRp6B4WFNZUcJb22fUVFkqMw4s41Qw6de+3oi6Gw2+Lh03zIixdZ056V0I0xP
\r
32 fFhc+lAuzw9YA+ZW5vxe67UpFSrCZDiwudUFVFeCvRVvZXbzMG3M+qxLZa2XRJ0VgGEU
\r
34 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
\r
35 d=1e100.net; s=20130820;
\r
36 h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references
\r
37 :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version;
\r
38 bh=1AG3MCU9jLq3m+T3TNRxafwXwJV4jPp/7TWk95TOM/A=;
\r
39 b=cEBCKAjzqCjWIipjwxeZz+Wp2C5YqUiktbbvZJtrDmXZJ8LX3K7wJKucjHZnGvMSYH
\r
40 JZnf5JbaOuHcrY7bLwLhvElXj2d/Drdkox8rcr1gBvr//Mh65PEwg6GfDx68KFm7vH0g
\r
41 TeYZQ+w6AW+l7+kUGDGV5dFl9x6RmsaGEsYrKIItTkbWRePEP6Z78BIcT6/mybX1dTLx
\r
42 WJXmp3H1ZPtcFqoDiZqWUIHHTZPXCel/XwGUtIUNSRtwv6Sh3/m0GCpd52Z/YRoiCaPy
\r
43 h+Am81U9Km8BODUoaBPa2dvzOsmmZNIcapOcqUWg59gA4zi4VK+DTZjdUWeVarJU4kIU
\r
46 AD7BkJJZeBkwCGspadvH7JMprcT3dvl0J/8lZ3kVDM61KgqlcotUbJ4S8zOJRnZQkQ603w==
\r
47 X-Received: by 10.28.107.195 with SMTP id a64mr10215985wmi.69.1460241661705;
\r
48 Sat, 09 Apr 2016 15:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
\r
49 Received: from localhost (188.29.66.211.threembb.co.uk. [188.29.66.211])
\r
50 by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d1sm5896868wjb.47.2016.04.09.15.40.59
\r
51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128);
\r
52 Sat, 09 Apr 2016 15:41:01 -0700 (PDT)
\r
53 From: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>
\r
54 To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>,
\r
55 Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>,
\r
56 David Mazieres expires 2016-07-03 PDT
\r
57 <mazieres-297ctmng4fhr6h6ad8yffa64yi@temporary-address.scs.stanford.edu>,
\r
58 notmuch@notmuchmail.org
\r
59 Subject: Re: Breaking a really long thread
\r
60 In-Reply-To: <87fuuu3938.fsf@zancas.localnet>
\r
61 References: <c10e501c2baee471cbeeb42aad89a1e966407234-NM@bruno.deptj.eu>
\r
62 <87k2kd8r6d.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> <87wpoc7hf8.fsf@ta.scs.stanford.edu>
\r
63 <8760vrm3jk.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <87fuuu3938.fsf@zancas.localnet>
\r
64 User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21+17~g6d0b613 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.4.1
\r
65 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
\r
66 Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 23:40:58 +0100
\r
67 Message-ID: <87bn5ijthh.fsf@qmul.ac.uk>
\r
69 Content-Type: text/plain
\r
70 X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org
\r
71 X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20
\r
73 List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system."
\r
74 <notmuch.notmuchmail.org>
\r
75 List-Unsubscribe: <https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/options/notmuch>,
\r
76 <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=unsubscribe>
\r
77 List-Archive: <http://notmuchmail.org/pipermail/notmuch/>
\r
78 List-Post: <mailto:notmuch@notmuchmail.org>
\r
79 List-Help: <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=help>
\r
80 List-Subscribe: <https://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch>,
\r
81 <mailto:notmuch-request@notmuchmail.org?subject=subscribe>
\r
82 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 22:41:12 -0000
\r
87 On Sat, 09 Apr 2016, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:
\r
88 > Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> writes:
\r
90 >> On Tue 2016-04-05 01:28:43 -0400, David Mazieres wrote:
\r
91 >>> Arguably, I would say either both the In-Reply-To and the References
\r
92 >>> header should be hidden or neither. Otherwise, what was happening is
\r
93 >>> that I was deleting the In-Reply-To header as it was the only one I saw,
\r
94 >>> and figuring that maybe References was adjusted after the fact based on
\r
95 >>> In-Reply-To. After all, the message buffer doesn't keep track of the
\r
98 >>> Unless there's a reason that someone would want to alter In-Reply-To
\r
99 >>> without altering References, it doesn't make sense to show one without
\r
102 >> I think i agree with David here, but the fact is that
\r
103 >> message-hidden-headers is derived directly from emacs (in message.el),
\r
104 >> and isn't part of notmuch-emacs at all.
\r
106 >> Are these changes worth addressing upstream?
\r
108 > Possibly. Although changing defaults is usually a cesspit of
\r
109 > bikeshedding. What would we ask, that upstream add In-Reply-To to
\r
110 > message-hidden-headers?
\r
112 > Related, showing hidden headers doesn't actually work very well:
\r
114 > http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=23252
\r
116 > I thought briefly about overriding the value in notmuch-message-mode,
\r
117 > perhaps by having a defcustom for notmuch-message-hidden-headers.
\r
119 I think we already have this, except it is called
\r
120 notmuch-mua-hidden-headers. It defaults to '("^User-Agent:").
\r
122 I think it would be reasonable to add In-Reply-To to this list.
\r
124 However, if I read the code correctly, currently we are changing
\r
125 message-hidden-headers globally which doesn't feel the right thing to
\r
126 do. Probably we should do something more like you suggest, and do the
\r
127 overriding just in notmuch-message-mode.
\r