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+From: Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com>\r
+To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
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+Subject: Re: [notmuch] notmuch 'index' mode.\r
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+On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:06:06 +0100, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> wrote:\r
+> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:29 -0800, Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> wro=\r
+te:\r
+> > I posted a patch adding an 'index' mode to notmuch and though I'd\r
+> > explain my idea. Most mail systems provide a 'folder view' mode which\r
+> > displays the set of folders and a count of messages in each folder. I\r
+> > used this myself as the first sort of which messages I want to read.\r
+>=20\r
+> I've just pushed this set of patches out now.\r
+>=20\r
+> I like it quite a bit. Here are some thoughts:\r
+>=20\r
+> * The mode documentation really needs to walk the user through how to\r
+> setup a custom set of folders.\r
+\r
+You can use the standard emacs customization interface, although it's\r
+not exactly well documented there. Additional docs are clearly\r
+indicated.\r
+\r
+> * It's not opening my "to-me" folder for some reason. (I thought it\r
+> was the '-' at first, but "xorg-board" is working fine). I can debug\r
+> this later.\r
+\r
+It shouldn't work on xorg-board either -- it just skips forward one\r
+'word' and assumes it's gotten the folder name. Lame programming, I\r
+know. Should be easy to fix.\r
+\r
+> * The presentation is impressively spartan[*]. :-)\r
+\r
+What more do you need? Pretty fonts? Icons? A pony?\r
+\r
+> If we spruce this up a bit, I think we'll want to make this the default\r
+> view of "M-x notmuch".\r
+\r
+Let's figure out what we want it to look like then. I suggest that we\r
+use some font tricks (bold/regular) to highlight folders with\r
+un-archived mail. I'd also like to be able to create a hierarchy.\r
+\r
+> Oh, and instead of just documenting how to set a variable in .emacs we\r
+> should just provide commands to add/remove folders.\r
+\r
+That seems doable; it really only takes two text fields after all.\r
+\r
+> I think the number of threads matching the search is the only\r
+> interesting number actually. Otherwise, you just end up printing a bunch\r
+> of big numbers that the user doesn't need for anything.\r
+\r
+Threads or messages? Threads are more expensive to compute, and when the\r
+number is zero, it means the same thing. But, it is surprising to see a\r
+huge number in the folder view and then get only a handful of threads in\r
+the search view. Perhaps if the count is small enough we can go through\r
+and actually figure out how many threads are involved.\r
+\r
+> So maybe the user configures a search template to use for each automatic\r
+> tag or so?\r
+\r
+Ack! I suggest that the simpler approach of just duplicating the search\r
+field will work fine in practice. Otherwise, you're talking miles of UI\r
+goo, and constantly confused users. Really, you can use emacs to edit\r
+these things if you get too many.\r
+\r
+> It's only when I get my search results down below a particular\r
+> threshold that I decide I want to read everything linearly.\r
+\r
+I have started doing this sometimes too. But, I still skim things like\r
+the mesa list and only read a few by clicking through and 'x'ing back.\r
+\r
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