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+To: Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: Add notmuch-hello.el,\r
+ a friendly frontend to notmuch\r
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+On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:13:01 -0700, Carl Worth <cworth@cworth.org> wrote:\r
+> * This should be integrated such that (require 'notmuch) provides the\r
+> notmuch-hello functionality. That's our documented access point for\r
+> getting at notmuch functionality.\r
+\r
+I'll do this, but I wonder if it is actually good advice. It causes\r
+notmuch.el (and anything that requires) to be loaded immediately. This\r
+will typically happen before any of a users' customisation settings are\r
+loaded (as `custom-set-variables', etc. generally happens right at the\r
+bottom of .emacs).\r
+\r
+A result of this is that notmuch can't use any of the customisation\r
+settings to adapt its' behaviour at load time. A example is (about which\r
+more lower down):\r
+\r
+> * I would *love* a simple way to import my existing notmuch-folder\r
+> configuration into notmuch-hello. Bonus points if this happens\r
+> automatically.\r
+\r
+notmuch-hello.el has:\r
+\r
+(defcustom notmuch-hello-saved-searches notmuch-folders\r
+ "A list of saved searches to display."\r
+ :type '(alist :key-type string :value-type string)\r
+ :group 'notmuch)\r
+\r
+So if `notmuch-folders' is set before notmuch-hello.el is loaded, you\r
+get some saved-searches copied from your folders (but this won't\r
+override any specific settings you made for\r
+`notmuch-hello-saved-searches').\r
+\r
+Relying on the order in general is bad\r
+(cf. `notmuch-search-authors-width'), but it can allow us to provide\r
+some useful functionality.\r
+\r
+If we don't want users to "(require 'notmuch)" we'd probably have to\r
+suggest one or more autoloads - perhaps even provide a file with a bunch\r
+of autoloads in it. Oh, or "(require 'notmuch)" should just load\r
+something that has the autoloads (d'oh!) and some\r
+`define-mail-user-agent' goop so that `compose-mail' does the right\r
+thing.\r
+\r
+I'll try to produce a patch for this last thing.\r
+\r
+> * The logo background is gray on my white-background emacs. That\r
+> looks odd.\r
+\r
+Patch sent.\r
+\r
+> * It would be great if point were in the search bar right when this\r
+> mode started.\r
+\r
+This is customisable, and I see that you changed the default ;-)\r
+\r
+> * I'd like the saved searches to appear before the recent searches I\r
+> think.\r
+\r
+Did you come to any conclusion about this?\r
+\r
+> * I'm not sure how useful the numbered shortcuts are for the recent\r
+> searches. We want to encourage people to move to saved searches\r
+> instead, (and the recent searches are quite transient anyway). So do\r
+> we really need these? [I mistook them for message counts at\r
+> first.]\r
+\r
+Patch sent which removes them.\r
+\r
+> * Repeating a recent search by pressing RET on it creates a new\r
+> identical search which doesn't seem all that useful.\r
+\r
+Patch sent.\r
+\r
+> * I would *love* a simple way to import my existing notmuch-folder\r
+> configuration into notmuch-hello. Bonus points if this happens\r
+> automatically.\r
+\r
+We could have `notmuch-hello' use `notmuch-folders' if\r
+`notmuch-hello-saved-searches' is `nil'. Would that help?\r
+\r
+> Finally, I'm quite inclined to make `notmuch' invoke this mode, so\r
+> think about that.\r
+\r
+It seems straightforward, I'll produce a patch.\r
+\r
+dme.\r
+-- \r
+David Edmondson, http://dme.org\r
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