[ Joey Hess ]
* Updated Czech translation from Miroslav Kure.
- * Apply patch from Pawel to avoid using -L in Makefile as it's not available
- in older finds.
+ * Apply patch from Paweł Tęcza to avoid using -L in Makefile as it's not
+ available in older finds.
* Make all templates have a footer div to ease themeing. Required template
and style sheet updates, and unless you're using customised versions,
you'll want to rebuild wikis on upgrade to this version to avoid
[ Joey Hess ]
* Include wikiname in syslogged messages.
- * Updated Polish translation from Pawel Tecza.
+ * Updated Polish translation from Paweł Tęcza.
* Updated Czech translation from Miroslav Kure.
* Updated Spanish translation from Victor Moral.
* Apply patch from hb that uses the full path to a file when adding a file
ikiwiki (1.31) unstable; urgency=low
- * Patch from Pawel Tecza to cp -a the templates in the Makefile.
+ * Patch from Paweł Tęcza to cp -a the templates in the Makefile.
* Change the rss feed title from the wikiname to the page title, with
an exception for the wiki's toplevel index page, which will still use the
wikiname as the feed title.
Jeremy, what about OpenID users? Do they also have Preferences?
I don't use openid plugin in my ikiwiki, so I can't check
-whether OpenID users are stored in .ikiwiki/userdb file. --Pawel
+whether OpenID users are stored in .ikiwiki/userdb file. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> OpenID users are first-class users. It's even possible to set the
> adminuser config option to an OpenID. The preferences work the same as
>> What about password of OpenID users? I can see in Preferences
>> page that I can change my password there. Has it a sense?
>> After all I store my OpenID password on OpenID server and I don't
->> want to do it on ikiwiki home page site. --Pawel
+>> want to do it on ikiwiki home page site. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> This wiki is currently configured to use both passwordauth and openid, so
>>> it's possible to create an account by signing in with an openid, then
>>>> BTW, have you had a sleep this night? ;) Here, in Poland, the time is
>>>> 1:30 PM (in your timezone is 7:30 AM), but we're just discussing for
->>>> about 3 hours... --Pawel
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+>>>> about 3 hours... --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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>> Thanks! What version of ikiwiki do you use at ikiwiki.info
>> site? I still can see my "getopenid.com/ptecza" OpenID at
->> RecentChanges page there... --Pawel
+>> RecentChanges page there... --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> I use the latest version I trust enough..
>>>> Joey, your regexp is not good enough. Now I can see "tecza [getopenid.com]",
>>>> instead of "ptecza [getopenid.com]" (you cut first character of my login).
->>>> --Pawel
+>>>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>> fixed now
->>>>>> Yes, now it's OK. Thank you very much! --Pawel
+>>>>>> Yes, now it's OK. Thank you very much! --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
BTW, Happy New Year for you and Debian 'etch' and all ikiwiki
-users! :) --Pawel
+users! :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>> I've just noticed that '/' character in title of my wish
>> wasn't escaped and ikiwiki created two pages, instead of one.
->> It's a bug, of course. --Pawel
+>> It's a bug, of course. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Sorry for confusing! I meant two files (directory and page),
>>> instead of one (page).
>>>>> Awesome! :) Thanks a lot!
>>> BTW, I have some problems with singing in using getopenid.com
->>> server, so I also use myopenid.com server :) --Pawel
+>>> server, so I also use myopenid.com server :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>> They were having some glitches last week.. --[[Joey]]
->>>>> It's good to know :) --Pawel
+>>>>> It's good to know :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
to confirm the problem. Maybe Victor Moral can do it? Probably he uses ikiwiki
with him Spanish translation.
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> Well, do you have your setup file configured to use a polish locale?
> --[[Joey]]
>> in my `ikiwiki.setup` file. I also ran `ikiwiki --setup ikiwiki.setup`
>> and restarted my Apache2 server. Unfortunately, I can still see
>> "Discussion" link instead of "Dyskusja" link after any page update
->> via WWW. --Pawel
+>> via WWW. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> A setlocale issue. Now [[bugs/done]] --[[Joey]]
->>>> I can confirm. Now it works :) Thanks a lot for the fix! --Pawel
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+>>>> I can confirm. Now it works :) Thanks a lot for the fix! --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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In my sent post (without Polish characters in title, of course ;) ) I still
-can see "Discussion" link, instead of Polish "Dyskusja" link. --Pawel
+can see "Discussion" link, instead of Polish "Dyskusja" link. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> I don't know what post you're referring to, more details please.
> --[[Joey]]
>> So, I sent the post to my blog and I can see that "Discussion" link
>> from `inlinepage.tmpl` file is not translated to Polish. Now I hope
->> you know what I mean :) --Pawel
+>> you know what I mean :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
->>> Joey, what about my bug report? ;) --Pawel
+>>> Joey, what about my bug report? ;) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>> Found and [[fixed|bugs/done]] --[[Joey]].
>>>>> (3) $config{locale}=pl_PL.UTF-8
>>>>> (3) $ENV{LANG}=pl_PL.UTF-8
>>>>>
->>>>> Is it a useful information for you? :) --Pawel
+>>>>> Is it a useful information for you? :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>>> Not really.. I was able to reproduce the problem you desciribed and
>>>>>> my changes fixed the problem I reproduced. --[[Joey]]
>> Yes, now it's fixed :) Thank you very much, Joey!
>> BTW, what about translating buttons to editing page ("Save Page",
->> "Preview" and "Cancel")? There are still hard-coded :( --Pawel
+>> "Preview" and "Cancel")? There are still hard-coded :( --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Those come via the formbuilder form, and currently my best plan for
>>> them is to add templates for them, as described in [[translation]]
and [myopenid.com](http://www.myopenid.com/) servers I use.
I'm reporting this, but I'm not sure whether a problem is with your
-ikiwiki or my OpenID servers. --Pawel
+ikiwiki or my OpenID servers. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> I've seen this too, once or twice (using myopenid), and reauthenticating
> fixed it -- so I can't reproduce it reliably to work on it. I think I've
PS. I still use ikiwiki 1.50 backported for Debian 'sarge'.
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
---
Could you please fix that patch? I guess how to do it, but I don't want
to break the code I distribute in my backport ;)
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> It's not my patch.. IIRC my suggestion was simply to do this: --[Joey]]
>> BTW, I was quite sure that you sent me the old patch via e-mail long time ago.
>> Maybe I found it at old ikiwiki home page? I don't remember it now.
>>
->> --Pawel
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+>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ptecza/svn/ikiwiki'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
This is because of an old version of Locale::gettext which doesn't
include the OO interface. I had this problem too, but installing a
>> Thanks for the hint, guys! :) I've just backported liblocale-gettext-perl
>> 1.05 package and it seems that now I can build my ikiwiki successfully
->> and it even works :) --Pawel
+>> and it even works :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
Thanks for the note on this, made it very easy to figure out what was going on. Just pointing out though that the Debian package doesn't require a new version of liblocale-gettext-perl. I just got bit by this bug setting up a dev ikiwiki box on a mixed stable/testing box. -- [[Adam]]
Where is my mistake?
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> It's not clear which Edit link you clicked in step 5. Is it the link on
> the new page, or the old link back on page Foo that you clicked on before
>> BTW, where does ikiwiki store information about rendered pages?
>> Is it `/my/ikiwiki/src/dir/.ikiwiki/` directory?
->> --Pawel
+>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Well, the missing %pagesources value explains the symptom for sure.
>>> ikiwiki stores its state in .ikiwiki/index, and that should include
>>>> What do you think about it? Does it look good? My ikiwiki runs
>>>> under control of Apache2 server and it's configured to run
->>>> as `www-data` user and `www-data` group. --Pawel
+>>>> as `www-data` user and `www-data` group. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>> It's a bit weird to run ikiwiki as www-data. This means that www-data
>>>>> can write to your subversion repository? And the svn post-commit hook
>>>>>> Only `root` user and `src` group have write permissions to my SVN repo.
>>>>>> Could you please show me your permissions for `repodir`, `srcdir`
->>>>>> and `destdir` and how runs your Apache server? --Pawel
+>>>>>> and `destdir` and how runs your Apache server? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>>>> Ugh, root? My permissions setup is simple, ikiwiki runs as a single
>>>>>>> user, and that same user can commit to the svn repo and write to
>>>>>>> all files. --[[Joey]]
>>>>>>>> What's your user? Please show me result of `ls -ld dir` for
->>>>>>>> directories above :) --Pawel
+>>>>>>>> directories above :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>>>>>> All my directories are 755 joey:joey. --[[Joey]]
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! But I have another situation: a multiuser system and a few
->>>>>>>>>> ikiwiki commiters. --Pawel
+>>>>>>>>>> ikiwiki commiters. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>>>>>>>> Joey, I think I've just fixed the permission, but my ikiwiki still
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't update my `.ikiwiki/index` file. Could you please explain me
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, where should I store my `ikiwiki.setup` file? It must be placed
>>>>>>>>>>> under `$srcdir/.ikiwiki/` directory or it doesn't matter?
>>>>>>>>>>> Does `ikiwiki.cgi` wrapper know where the `ikiwiki.setup` file
->>>>>>>>>>> is stored? --Pawel
+>>>>>>>>>>> is stored? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
Sorry I am not indenting for my reply (in my browser the responses are very narrow.)
> enlight me here ;)
>
> BTW, I also noticed `wikistatedir` variable in the ikiwiki code
-> and I couldn't find any information about it in ikiwiki docs :) --Pawel
+> and I couldn't find any information about it in ikiwiki docs :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>> wikistatedir is a non-configurable internal value.
>>
>> for some reason (permissions perhaps?) --[[Joey]]
>>> OK, [[bugs/done]]! It was problem with permissions and not upgraded
->>> `editpage.tmpl` template :) --Pawel
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+>>> `editpage.tmpl` template :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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BTW, maybe converting smileys in the block code should be disabled at all?
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> Looks similar to [[wiki_links_still_processed_inside_code_blocks]]; in both
> cases, substitution happens in a code block, which it shouldn't.
>>> Joey, I've just seen that you closed that bug in ikiwiki 1.37, but it seems
>>> you fixed it only for English "discussion" page. The bug still occurs
>>> for the international "discussion" pages. I have backported ikiwiki 1.40
->>> and I can see "Dyskusja" link on my Polish "dyskusja" pages. --Pawel
+>>> and I can see "Dyskusja" link on my Polish "dyskusja" pages. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Yes, I missed that string when internationalizing ikiwiki, fixed now.
>>>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ptecza/svn/ikiwiki'
>>>> make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
->>>> I think you should be notified about it :) --Pawel
+>>>> I think you should be notified about it :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>>> You have an unresolved svn conflict in some files in po, looks like.
>>>>>> and I never use `svn status` command. Yes, now I know I should do it :)
>>>>>> First I removed conflicting `sv.po` file and next I updated it and
->>>>>> it has resolved the problem. --Pawel
+>>>>>> it has resolved the problem. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
[[applied|done]], thanks --[[Joey]]
-> Thank you! :) --Pawel
+> Thank you! :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
I hope it's a bug, not a feature, because I don't have the same
problem with other links, for example "Edit", "RecentChanges"
-or "History". --Pawel
+or "History". --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> There are good reasons for feeding a full html link into the template,
> rather than the urls used for the other links. For one, the Discussion
> link needs to be different if the Discussion page doesn't yet exist.
->> You can always use `<tmpl_if>` and `<tmpl_else>` construct in that place ;) --Pawel
+>> You can always use `<tmpl_if>` and `<tmpl_else>` construct in that place ;) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Not without duplicating the logic that constructs a link to an
>>> existing/nonexisting page in two places, one in code in ikiwiki and one
>>
>> BTW, is there a chance for configurable name of Discussion page?
>> In my wiki I use only Polish name of pages, so I would like to have
->> dyskusja.html page, instead of discussion.html page. --Pawel
+>> dyskusja.html page, instead of discussion.html page. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Ikiwiki is now fully internationalised, so you can change the name of
>>> the Discussion page and quite a lot more (but hardly everything) by
>>> translating it. [[bugs/done]]! There's a `po/debconf.pot` in the source
>>> now for translating. See [[translation]]. --[[Joey]]
->>>> Joey, you're great! ;) Thanks a lot! I'll try ikiwiki l10n stuff soon. --Pawel
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+>>>> Joey, you're great! ;) Thanks a lot! I'll try ikiwiki l10n stuff soon. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
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It seems that I can't use Polish characters in post title.
When I try to do it, then I can see error message: "Błąd: bad page name".
-I hope it's a bug, not a feature and you fix it soon :) --Pawel
+I hope it's a bug, not a feature and you fix it soon :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> ikiwiki only allows a very limited set of characters raw in page names,
> this is done as a deny-by-default security thing. All other characters
>> what the character number is. I only want to blog :)
>> BTW, why don't you use the modified-UTF7 coding for page names
->> as used in IMAP folder names with non-Latin letters? --Pawel
+>> as used in IMAP folder names with non-Latin letters? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Joey, do you intend to fix that bug or it's a feature
->>> for you? ;) --Pawel
+>>> for you? ;) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>> Of course you can put Polish characters in the title. but the page
>>>> title and filename are not identical. Ikiwiki has to place some limits
>>>>>> B__179____177__d.mdwn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your locale? I have both pl\_PL (ISO-8859-2) and pl\_PL.UTF-8,
->>>>>> but I use pl\_PL. Is it wrong? --Pawel
+>>>>>> but I use pl\_PL. Is it wrong? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>>> Now, as to UTF7, in retrospect, using a standard encoding might be a
>>>> better idea than coming up with my own encoding for filenames. Can
>>>>> for IMAP4 protocol (please see section 5.1.3 for details).
>>>>> There is a Perl [Unicode::IMAPUtf7](http://search.cpan.org/~fabpot/Unicode-IMAPUtf7-2.01/lib/Unicode/IMAPUtf7.pm)
->>>>> module at the CPAN, but probably it hasn't been debianized yet :( --Pawel
+>>>>> module at the CPAN, but probably it hasn't been debianized yet :( --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
$ dpkg -L ikiwiki |grep smileys.mdwn
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
This seems to be a bug in your 1.43gpal version, whatever that is.. In the package I built, I see:
> You're right. My backport was builded without all symlinks, because I store
> all rebuilded sources in CVS repo, but it seems that CVS doesn't support symlinks.
-> Grrr... I need to switch to another repo now. --Pawel
+> Grrr... I need to switch to another repo now. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>> Ok, [[bugs/done]] then --[[Joey]]
to upgrade to a newer version of libcgi-formbuilder-perl, `3.05`.
There is also an unofficial backport of ikiwiki for Debian 'sarge', provided by
-Pawel Tecza, at <http://gpa.net.icm.edu.pl/debian/>.
+Paweł Tęcza, at <http://gpa.net.icm.edu.pl/debian/>.
Also. FreeBSD has ikiwiki in its
[ports collection](http://www.freshports.org/www/ikiwiki/).
My best regards,
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
----
There is a way to ban ikiwiki users, but how to ban an IP address?
For example if a bitchy anonymous is bombing our poll. I can use
only Apache/iptables rules for this? Maybe it's related to
-[[ACL|todo/ACL]] request? --Pawel
+[[ACL|todo/ACL]] request? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> Well, the polls are not something I would worry about much. I do plan to
> [[add_IP_range_banning|todo/spam_fighting]], although I expect to wait until
>> problems of Wikipedia with the vandals from Qatar. They demolished
>> Qatar Wikipedia pages and the admins of Wikipedia had to ban all
>> IP addresses of that country (fortunately Qatar has only one ISP).
->> --Pawel
+>> --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
My best regards,
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> If you did not already know, you can achieve similar results using CSS3
> selectors. Eg: `a[href="http://www.foobar.com/"] { foobar: css }` or
>> I've never written plugin for ikiwiki, but I can try if it's simple job :)
>>
->> --Pawel
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Probably it's better to generate a page on the fly as a CGI
(just the same like for RecentChanges page) when a user
really needs it, instead to build static printable version
-for all ikiwiki pages. --Pawel
+for all ikiwiki pages. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> I've always considered print links to be a sign of a badly designed web
> site that looks ugly in a printer because it's ugly anywhere, so I may
> --[[Joey]]
>> Maybe you could add `print.css` file for printable version? We just have
->> `local.css` file for a local styling. --Pawel
+>> `local.css` file for a local styling. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Sure, very doable, but the UI to switch to it when printing, I don't
>>> know..
>>>> ikiwiki plugins.
>>>> BTW, I also was thinkig about plugin to CVS support,
->>>> but unfortunately I don't have too much free time. --Pawel
+>>>> but unfortunately I don't have too much free time. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>> You don't need a stylesheet-switching UI or a printer-friendly
>> version; just link to a stylesheet with `media="print"`. --[[JoshTriplett]]
What do you think about refreshing RecentChanges page (via Meta Refresh Tag)?
It can be useful for users like me which rather prefer watching the last changes
-in WWW browser tab than subscribing to page. --Pawel
+in WWW browser tab than subscribing to page. --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> Depends, if it were done the time period should be made configurable.
> Unwanted server load due to refeshing could be a problem for some.
>> stupid and he will not set too short refresh period to kill his server :)
>> I propose to add `recentchanges_refresh` variable in ikiwiki setup
>> to setting refresh period. If it's not defined, then ikiwiki doesn't put
->> refresh meta tag into `recentchanges.tmpl`. Do you like it? ;) --Pawel
+>> refresh meta tag into `recentchanges.tmpl`. Do you like it? ;) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> Seems reasonable --[[Joey]]
>>>> OK, I hope I handle it :)
4. What about "gettexting" button titles and link names? Do you really
-think that there should be hardcoded in ikiwiki templates? --Pawel
+think that there should be hardcoded in ikiwiki templates? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> I don't know, really. Recai's approach seems to show promise.
>> BTW, why does ikiwiki number my questions wrongly (1., 1., 1., 1.,
- >> instead of 1., 2., 3., 4.)? Where have I made a Markdown mistake? --Pawel
+ >> instead of 1., 2., 3., 4.)? Where have I made a Markdown mistake? --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
>>> My indentation mistake, I think. --[[Joey]]
- >>>> Now it's perfect :) Thank you very much! --Pawel
+ >>>> Now it's perfect :) Thank you very much! --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
----
So I have a request to Joey and the rest of ikiwiki coders:
please write more verbose gettext messages and don't fear using
subject there. It will be huge help for me and other ikiwiki
-translators. Thank you! :) --Pawel
+translators. Thank you! :) --[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> Well, those messages are mostly laconic because they're output by
> ikiwiki running in unix program mode and other tight situations, and
> size limits. This is generally done by adding comments in the pot file,
> and I've turned that on, and added a few. --[[Joey]]
->> Thank you very much! It also will be a big help for me. --Pawel
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BTW, ikiwiki doesn't displays the #foo anchor in the example
("To link to an anchor inside a page...") at [[WikiLink]] page...
---Pawel
+--[[Paweł|ptecza]]
> No such syntax exists in markdown. ikiwiki could certainly have a
> [[preprocessor_directive|preprocessordirective]] for it, though.
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