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30 From: Pieter Praet <pieter@praet.org>
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31 To: Jameson Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net>,
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32 notmuch <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>
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33 Subject: Re: signed/encrypted tagging in crypto branch
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54 Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:27:02 +0200
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73 On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 11:15:00 -0800, Jameson Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net> wrote:
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74 > On Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:26:46 -0800, Jameson Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net> wrote:
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75 > > Hey, folks. I just pushed a couple of patches to my "crypto" branch [0]
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76 > > that add support for auto-tagging of multipart/signed and
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77 > > multipart/encrypted messages with the "signed" and "encrypted" tags
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78 > > respectively. Only new messages are thus tagged, so a database rebuild
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79 > > is required to auto-tag old messages.
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81 > So I realized last night, what now seems obvious, that restoring tags
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82 > after a notmuch new will override any initial auto tagging. This means
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83 > that doing a database rebuild will *not* crypto tag all your old mail if
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84 > you then restore tags from a tag dump afterwords.
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86 > I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done about this. I think
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87 > we either have to have a way to merge tags, or the signed and encrypted
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88 > indicators need to exist in a different field in the database. Tags
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89 > allow more flexibility in the UIs, but maybe we could just tag based on
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90 > a the new database field somehow?
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92 > It's not such a big deal that we only get "signed" and "encrypted" from
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93 > here forward, but it would be nice to re-tag old messages this way. I
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94 > can imagine that something like this will come up again in the future,
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95 > and it would be nice if we had a solution. I'm open to suggestions.
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98 Non-text part: application/pgp-signature
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99 > _______________________________________________
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101 > notmuch@notmuchmail.org
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105 As long as we're talking solely about "signed" and "encrypted" (so no
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106 verification-wise information whatsoever), I'd definitely vote for a
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107 dedicated database field.
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109 It's absolutely immutable metadata, embedded in the message content.
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111 No point in using tags for that, though it's not mutually exclusive:
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112 "notmuch tag +signed -- is:signed" (or whatever, knock yourself out)
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114 If folders -which DO change, although rarely- got one, so should crypto.
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117 ...but that's just my (insufficiently) humble opinion.
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