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Subject: Re: RFC: don't ask users to do 'sudo make install'\r
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 15:05:02 +0100\r
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On 07/12/11 14:37, Tomi Ollila wrote:\r
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:25:45 +0100, Justus Winter\r
> <4winter@informatik.uni-hamburg.de>\r
> wrote:\r
>> Hey everyone,\r
>> \r
>> I just noticed that running configure says:\r
>> \r
>>> All required packages were found. You may now run the\r
>>> following commands to compile and install notmuch:\r
>>> \r
>>> make sudo make install\r
>> \r
>> I think that this is a very poor advice in general and we\r
>> shouldn't give it to users. I know that the default prefix is\r
>> /usr/local, but installing notmuch this way makes it very hard to\r
>> uninstall it later (there is no uninstall target).\r
> \r
> Too bad there is no better 'default' way to do things -- configure\r
> - make - make install is the way most software provides their\r
> installation sequence.\r
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Because of these problems, I use checkinstall to create a deb file ( I\r
am using Ubuntu) which I can then un-install again if I want to, or\r
update, or anything the package manager can do.\r
\r
Rainer\r
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> \r
> But where does 'sudo make install' work by default? on Ubuntu, on \r
> new Fedoras. Where else ?\r
> \r
> The 'uninstall target' is also hard problem as it would require\r
> configured source directory (and possibly information gathered\r
> during installation to know what to uninstall) -- To do a separate\r
> uninstallation too that is installed during notmuch installation\r
> would be something I don't remember seeing done in unix\r
> environments ever...\r
> \r
>> If someone decides to install notmuch from source and later on\r
>> using his or her favorite package manager, the once installed\r
>> notmuch in /usr/local will still be found and before the one in\r
>> /usr and thus be preferred.\r
> \r
> Hmm, I've screwed my PATH setting as there usr/local/* comes after\r
> /usr/* ;/\r
> \r
>> Maybe we should mention stow (https://www.gnu.org/s/stow/)?\r
> \r
> Hmm, in addition to mentioning it there should be step-by-step \r
> information how to proceed with it to compile and install notmuch \r
> (and all the prerequisities required) using stow. That should not \r
> be too hard -- just log the installation steps. Maybe SomeBody(TM) \r
> takes some effort there ?\r
> \r
>> \r
>> Justus\r
> \r
> Tomi\r
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