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38 From: Dmitry Kurochkin <dmitry.kurochkin@gmail.com>
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39 To: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>
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40 Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: support "notmuch new" as a notmuch-poll-script
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68 On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:31:03 -0500, Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> wrot=
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70 > Quoth Jani Nikula on Dec 12 at 1:10 am:
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71 > > On Dec 12, 2011 12:56 AM, "Austin Clements" <[1]amdragon@mit.edu> wr=
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74 > > > Quoth Dmitry Kurochkin on Dec 12 at =C2=A02:00 am:
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77 > > > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:48:20 +0200, Jani Nikula <[2]jani@nikula.=
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80 > > > > > Let notmuch-poll-script be a function as well as a string. Make
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82 > > > > > value nil instead of an empty string, but allow "" for backwar=
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84 > > > > > compatibility. Add a notmuch poll function to call "notmuch ne=
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87 > > > > > configured notmuch-command.
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89 > > > > > This allows taking better advantage of the "notmuch new" hooks=
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92 > > > > > without intermediate scripts.
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95 > > > > I was just thinking about working on this myself :)
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97 > > > > I think a better solution would be to allow running a command wi=
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99 > > > > arguments. =C2=A0Creating a elisp function just to run a command=
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101 > > > > parameters feels wrong. =C2=A0This way we would have to add anot=
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104 > > > > each time we want to add another argument.
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106 > > > This seems a little awkward to me, too, though perhaps it's the be=
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108 > > > way. =C2=A0Other approaches to consider include accepting a list f=
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110 > > > notmuch-poll-script (e.g., ("notmuch" "new")) or leaving it as a
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111 > > > string but treating it as a shell command so "notmuch new" would J=
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113 > > > Work. =C2=A0Personally, I think the latter is the most intuitive, =
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115 > > > would be worth looking at how other customizable external commands=
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117 > > > done in Emacs.
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119 > > > A function seems powerful, but also like overkill. =C2=A0Can you g=
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121 > > > case for a function that wouldn't be more easily solved by one of =
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123 > > > above approaches?
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125 > > The only reason I had for using a function was running notmuch using
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126 > > notmuch-command. Any ideas how to do that with the Just Works approa=
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129 > Oh, I see. I'd missed that.
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131 > So here's another idea, prefaced with a rant.
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133 > It's bothered me for a long time that notmuch-emacs didn't just know
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134 > by default how to check for new mail. What MUA doesn't know how to
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135 > check for new mail? Why does a new user of notmuch have to tell it
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136 > how to check for new mail? Of course, this *had* to be configured
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137 > before because everyone had their own way of checking for new mail.
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138 > Hooks eliminate this unnecessary flexibility and make "notmuch new"
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139 > the one true way to check for new mail---as it ought to be---and in
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140 > turn make the notmuch-poll-script variable obsolete.
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142 > So, what about changing the default "" setting of notmuch-poll-script
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143 > from meaning "do nothing and be useless" to meaning "run notmuch new
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144 > (using notmuch-command)"? It will then automatically do the right
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145 > thing for new users, while still being backward-compatible and
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146 > allowing an escape hatch for bizarre situations.
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148 Fine with me. AFAIK no one has asked for using custom functions for
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149 notmuch-poll-script, so adding a sane default may be the simplest and
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