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24 From: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>
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25 To: David Bremner <david@tethera.net>, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>,
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27 Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] notmuch-emacs-mua: do not create a frame by
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28 default with --client
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57 On Tue, Sep 29 2015, Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi> wrote:
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59 > On Mon, Sep 28 2015, David Bremner <david@tethera.net> wrote:
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61 >> Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi> writes:
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64 >>> if [ -n "$AUTO_DAEMON" -a -z "$CREATE_FRAME" ]; then
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65 >>> echo "$0: --auto-daemon is only applicable with --create-frame." >&2
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69 >>> without this one may execute ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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70 >>> which yields starting emacs in daemon mode (in this example it is expected
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71 >>> emacs is not running; otherwise --auto-daemon has no use in this example)
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72 >>> -- but no ui to that newly-running emacs is provided. Similar behaviour
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73 >>> can be observed by the following
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76 >> I think what you propose is fine for a followup patch; note that the
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77 >> scenario you worry about also needs --client to be a problem. Apparently
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78 >> nothing is uncontroversial here, but if auto-daemon only works with
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79 >> create frame, then perhaps the followup would be to have auto-daemon
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80 >> imply create-frame
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82 > Without --client --auto-daemon is no-op (as it is no-op in case emacs
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83 > server is already running). I am (only) concerned about user experience
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84 > when one runs --client --auto-daemon and user gets nothing (i.e. emacs
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85 > server is running in the background w/o any clients connected to it.
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87 > We could make --auto-daemon imply --create-frame, but then
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89 > ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon (i.e. w/o --client) starts new mail
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90 > compose window to separate frame (even though user did not request
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91 > it w/ --create-frame)
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93 Hmm, a few more tests. it now looks like in case the command line is
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95 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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97 Then the --create-frame should be implied. w/o --client --create-frame
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98 would ... well, create that (only) emacs frame anyways... oh, the
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99 combinations; for reference I just paste from my history...
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102 1 07:57 0:01 ccd notmuch
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103 2 07:57 0:06 git pull --rebase
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104 3 07:57 0:01 git log
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106 5 07:58 0:10 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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108 8 07:58 0:00 emacs &
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109 9 07:58 0:07 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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110 10 07:59 0:01 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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111 12 08:01 0:03 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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112 13 08:02 0:00 ps ax
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113 14 08:02 0:00 ls /tmp/emacs1001
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114 15 08:02 0:00 ./notmuch-emacs-mua -nw --auto-daemon
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115 16 08:02 0:04 DISPLAY= ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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117 18 08:03 0:02 DISPLAY= ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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118 19 08:04 0:01 DISPLAY= ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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119 20 08:04 0:00 ps ax
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120 21 08:04 0:00 kill 1860
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121 22 08:04 0:00 ps ax
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122 23 08:06 0:00 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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123 24 08:06 0:00 ps ax
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124 25 08:06 0:00 kill 1875
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125 26 08:06 0:00 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon
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126 27 08:06 0:00 ps ax
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127 28 08:06 0:00 kill 1926
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128 29 08:06 0:06 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --client --auto-daemon --create-frame
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129 30 08:07 0:28 ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon --create-frame
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133 So. I'm going w/ the suggestion making --auto-daemon imply --create-frame
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137 > (actually I already did the 'imply' option (easy, one line in script,
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138 > another in namual), just that testing it gave this thought...
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140 > ... therefore I'd rather make ./notmuch-emacs-mua --auto-daemon
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141 > spit an error and exit -- but I can be convinced otherwise :)
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