From fe2e30432f1efc47c5cbf22d915988d6536164e3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Philip Hands Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:05:00 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] Restore original keybinding ('r' = reply-to-all) --- 53/d2a45e54653f4708f11601d57108df5fe8ce25 | 122 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 122 insertions(+) create mode 100644 53/d2a45e54653f4708f11601d57108df5fe8ce25 diff --git a/53/d2a45e54653f4708f11601d57108df5fe8ce25 b/53/d2a45e54653f4708f11601d57108df5fe8ce25 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..65cb4c88d --- /dev/null +++ b/53/d2a45e54653f4708f11601d57108df5fe8ce25 @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC97431FB6 + for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:10:21 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: 0.01 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[T_MIME_NO_TEXT=0.01] autolearn=unavailable +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id Kv-mHAzp8hqg for ; + Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:10:21 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from free.hands.com (free.hands.com [83.142.228.128]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5049431FAF + for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:10:20 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from hands.com (poker.hands-vpn [172.23.32.10]) + by free.hands.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 75D4C2A615; + Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:09:47 +0100 (BST) +Received: from phil by hands.com with local (masqmail 0.2.30) id + 1SkHDR-7NA-00; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:05:09 +0100 +From: Philip Hands +To: Jesse Rosenthal , David Bremner , + Jameson Graef Rollins , + Carl Worth , notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restore original keybinding ('r' = reply-to-all) +In-Reply-To: <87ehozmpcq.fsf@jhu.edu> +References: <1340815565-21083-1-git-send-email-cworth@cworth.org> + <87obo4zljq.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> + <87hatwqoz9.fsf@maritornes.cs.unb.ca> <87ehozmpcq.fsf@jhu.edu> +User-Agent: Notmuch/0.13.2 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 + (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) +Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:05:00 +0100 +Message-ID: <87hatv4e37.fsf@poker.hands.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; + micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" +X-hands-com-MailScanner-ID: 75D4C2A615.00000 +X-hands-com-MailScanner: Found to be clean +X-hands-com-MailScanner-From: phil@hands.com +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:10:21 -0000 + +--=-=-= +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Jesse Rosenthal writes: + +... +> If it's not obvious, I'm pretty strongly against Carl's roll-back. I +> could, of course, just uncomment my old correction in my .emacs, but I +> think it's a change that could hurt users. Those who are more likely to +> prefer the reply-all behavior are more likely to be able to change the +> defaults. Those who aren't likely to change the defaults are more likely +> to be bitten, badly, by a default reply-all behavior. + +I find the change to the new (only reply to sender) behaviour serously +irritating, because it seems I cannot train myself to hit R all the time +(which is pretty much what I always want). + +On the other hand, I'm perfectly capable of customising this, but have +something of a fetish for at least trying to live with defaults for a +period, so it's my own fault for putting up with it. + +So, even if I don't personally like it this way round, it is at least +fail-safe (well except for the fact that I keep failing to group-reply +and then wonder why nobody talks to me any more ;-) + +Of course, if it turns out that the vast majority of actual users are +like me and would prefer to do r and then edit the To/Cc if it's +supposed to be private, then reverting the change would make sense. + +Cheers, Phil. + +P.S. Oh ARSE! -- of course I just failed to hit R again! and so had to +do some more sodding about to actually get the list included in the To: + +Actually, instead of either of these options, how about some way of +letting r do the single reply, and then once inside the reply, having +some key binding to add the rest of the recipients in the group, or flip +between the two options so one can change one's mind after typing up the +reply? +=2D-=20 +|)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ +|-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ +|(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) + +iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJP7ICsAAoJENBLo6ABJdXAENAP/12OPGQJoRPyB1wORGiw0klZ +H/KU8IKi09Wfsj4Xxb/I8zdSL/J3v23lZOWjbAxH1L91WVxd4/UFSelC5oxPkzXg ++PKy6xiD+7vDpbAU/s1XOspsA2U59UgIT2QoKmniMNZw9Vehos+lCRKSVC6tKsKV +vViL3hlgOOoRie+rmc+ck/4tnb8ckFVv7GxJWEuHvMuc5ZpG+OejSo6H04hC34s1 +u484PHWmadz9VtQauHDFXIWfmyReav+Ax2T4NShQi86/vrPNxB9lLjqyRNAnp8Uq +mm9uDvzP8ZIEelsG4dqmweWwutU6cpVB+Hp3yVyyGZmaUX0xfkhQPXAbjYPhDGtC +qECJxVN1QCeIOxBCIOa6JBiujOqnKoq/HC85vKDF14pgbAEqxBPx43ImnJg5tWeX +Vgbtm+Cj2NPaga7FWSBdUgVzdaIW+T6SYZ7niYJYmpbxQh1TwZzbsEB3ANQPIsx6 +8IMx4uKpBEfm7Tr2yw+/yysxzCia3liyD7mhkDcI5w4AgMleXH8ij6mBNX2KULaq +vWJvy8k6aQXKkOYbc2pc1F66mp7jw345dcHk8kJpyKeDf68Ci0DNIVqyTN3VFdue +r/49UyBqPgy6juSKWDVaEZxQ5/cl5OVvBuLmMO+K27RQV5LfPR0A5SNsaU0LzvWk +OAUJnUyhiSchetrHAa7n +=iESM +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +--=-=-=-- -- 2.26.2