From: Antoine Beaupré Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:24:03 +0000 (+2000) Subject: Re: Message deletion wisdom X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/gitweb.cgi?a=commitdiff_plain;h=dc242431ce50d4cad8a462603aa0a8cea039000d;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Message deletion wisdom --- diff --git a/af/84ae46bb36367590ef56f0ed19313d4c63278a b/af/84ae46bb36367590ef56f0ed19313d4c63278a new file mode 100644 index 000000000..452375ad4 --- /dev/null +++ b/af/84ae46bb36367590ef56f0ed19313d4c63278a @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60525431FB6 + for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:24:05 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: 1.274 +X-Spam-Level: * +X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.274 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[RDNS_NONE=1.274] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id O9TyjVLLWdM7 for ; + Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:24:04 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from marcos.anarcat.ath.cx (unknown [72.0.72.144]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18D0431FAE + for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:24:04 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by marcos.anarcat.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id 5D27C1431E7; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:24:04 -0400 (EDT) +From: Antoine =?utf-8?Q?Beaupr=C3=A9?= +To: Jani Nikula , + Jameson Graef Rollins , + Jacek Generowicz , notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: Message deletion wisdom +In-Reply-To: <87mx6sx7ya.fsf@nikula.org> +References: <0cc49af3-5415-419d-97ef-2bec76117d63@CERNFE22.cern.ch> + <87sjgk2xzf.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> + <87mx6sx7ya.fsf@nikula.org> +User-Agent: Notmuch/0.12 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 + (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) +Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 12:24:03 -0400 +Message-ID: <87hawycfks.fsf@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; + micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:24:05 -0000 + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 07:38:37 +0000, Jani Nikula wrote: +> To amend that (with mostly historical and not so helpful info), notmuch +> used to have the ability to sync the "deleted" tag with the T +> ("trashed") maildir flag (with maildir.synchronize_flags option +> set). Other mail clients or offlineimap were then able to delete the +> mails locally and/or on a server. However, this too had some issues +> (concerning multiple files with the same message-id) making it +> potentially dangerous, and was removed [1]. Whether this feature ever +> makes a comeback depends on someone tackling the problems. And taking +> into account the fact that current users of the deleted tag probably do +> not expect the files to be actually deleted. + +I rolled patches for this in the past, see the following message: + +id:"1310874973-28437-1-git-send-email-anarcat@koumbit.org" +id:"1310874973-28437-2-git-send-email-anarcat@koumbit.org" + +They were indeed refused by the community, but I felt they were still +useful. + +I do not use those patches nowadays, however, but to me they would fit +in a broader architectural view of notmuch, where tags are not only +metadata sitting outside of your email, but is also written to the +messages themselves. + +The idea is that you can then run notmuch from multiple places without +having to worry about synchronising your tags manually: the tags would +sit in the messages themselves. + +A. +=2D-=20 +Ce que les si=C3=A8cles des grands abatoirs nous aura appris +Devrait =C3=AAtre inscrit au fond de toutes les =C3=A9coles; +Voici l'homme: le destructeur des mondes est arriv=C3=A9. + - [no one is innocent] + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) + +iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJPfccjAAoJEHkhUlJ7dZIesY8P/3mZhm+GUbcQfDiQFTtEccC3 +UClXtPoSkRlm7EHNqgr1jz28mdmS6Z4cUylxwu73gFAkA+oaZO7qQKJLShgxSGIB +T2AnCPdKdV4T3bcRH0jtmeXhcw4P9QTVDx4WwDQnQF2lKvB8ReFLp9zvzO6T7Tsp +edEAYANkGNOQBKEGjksUmI33A8WEUhn3yMZ7f0VQIdeaoZoobaW1zDsbvDZ85lAc +dURRr59gZ2XxQcdIRpZsATcKG/qk1HctgGUzylxlfQCV0K2AqDKc/xjonaRbw4TA +RTNg0/djLu1bj4rWPCFzgk0gCDjMrqF5zCoQUS+voun26qeHEtMXmsiBfvkuBdeC +wDNFrWizhFa+jLyJlrv49R856XqMShEJcb+Oz/D1eT94hzZGQHTJQGMqrkdnT/ua +wl0Xpjf91Ik2I0W0hUn3jRlRzCqPA/dSveIXjJ1bpskUWQ3FB9n5pvxwECW0NyZW +VWSBUlSAiDV1iCf7zJVDBf09prDgnS/+5FmXAYY0pIgWxUCF8ELiXmAEnlhDD2Os +bGsq7h+Bn1TgUlTlpHPK4LAnL8niYyjPdrKwuK7GDgmkZrwbj/EEdRjISyMZGjtc +U3UVceV2FJUputMZjjyyBOeiJMHWQjGvJsCyxvUeuFm/yj+tj/cFp9EiqM+ZIHJ0 +9h+AzbJ2C4t5KPwUDQBl +=eszp +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +--=-=-=--