From: Mark Anderson Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:50 +0000 (+1800) Subject: Re: Message deletion wisdom X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/gitweb.cgi?a=commitdiff_plain;h=3705a12307b421bf0b1390b71ab9fc48471b673f;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Message deletion wisdom --- diff --git a/02/96d23a45ac271b3f10617c15921add11f4dabf b/02/96d23a45ac271b3f10617c15921add11f4dabf new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b2ffded0e --- /dev/null +++ b/02/96d23a45ac271b3f10617c15921add11f4dabf @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D78C431FB6 + for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:03 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -2.3 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id K2vTt5FPiggh for ; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com + (tx2ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.12]) + (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0662431FAE + for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:18:02 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.249) by + TX2EHSOBE009.bigfish.com (10.9.40.29) with Microsoft SMTP Server id + 14.1.225.23; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:18:00 +0000 +Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by + mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959B12004FD; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:18:00 +0000 (UTC) +X-SpamScore: -16 +X-BigFish: VPS-16(zzc89bh1432N98dK4015I179dNzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h93fhd24h) +X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:163.181.249.108; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); + IPV:NLI; H:ausb3twp01.amd.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI +Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail120-tx2 + (MessageSwitch) id 1333743477691804_30632; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.238]) by + mail120-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99552C004A; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 (UTC) +Received: from ausb3twp01.amd.com (163.181.249.108) by + TX2EHSMHS025.bigfish.com (10.9.99.125) with Microsoft SMTP Server id + 14.1.225.23; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 20:17:57 +0000 +X-WSS-ID: 0M22R1V-01-4PU-02 +X-M-MSG: +Received: from sausexedgep02.amd.com (sausexedgep02-ext.amd.com + [163.181.249.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 + bits)) (No + client certificate requested) by ausb3twp01.amd.com (Axway MailGate + 3.8.1) + with ESMTP id 21C56102807C; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:55 -0500 (CDT) +Received: from sausexhtp02.amd.com (163.181.3.152) by sausexedgep02.amd.com + (163.181.36.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.192.1; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:18:15 -0500 +Received: from adcvmail01.amd.com (163.181.21.78) by sausexhtp02.amd.com + (163.181.3.152) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:55 -0500 +Received: from mhdc-ns01.amd.com (mhdc-ns01.amd.com [165.204.35.147]) by + adcvmail01.amd.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q36KHrNc003044; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 15:17:53 -0500 +Received: from testarossa.amd.com (testarossa.amd.com [165.204.147.44]) by + mhdc-ns01.amd.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q36KHr6E024537; + Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:53 -0600 (MDT) +Received: (from manderso@localhost) by testarossa.amd.com + (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id q36KHptB014143; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:51 -0600 +X-Authentication-Warning: testarossa.amd.com: manderso set sender to + MarkR.Anderson@amd.com using -f +From: Mark Anderson +To: Antoine =?utf-8?Q?Beaupr=C3=A9?= , Jameson Graef + Rollins , Jacek Generowicz + , +Subject: Re: Message deletion wisdom +In-Reply-To: <87k41ucfqc.fsf@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx> +References: <0cc49af3-5415-419d-97ef-2bec76117d63@CERNFE22.cern.ch> + <87sjgk2xzf.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> + <87k41ucfqc.fsf@marcos.anarcat.ath.cx> +User-Agent: Notmuch/0.11.1+251~g1093c24 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.2.1 + (i686-pc-linux-gnu) +Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:17:50 -0600 +Message-ID: <3wdobr4vclt.fsf@testarossa.amd.com> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +X-OriginatorOrg: amd.com +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2012 20:18:03 -0000 + +On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 12:20:43 -0400, Antoine Beaupr=C3=A9 wrote: +> Finally, I want to voice that I feel a "delete" key, even if it doesn't +> delete mails, seems like an important part of a mail user +> agent. Archiving mail is one thing, but for the love and respect of +> sysadmins and the infrastructure they maintain, please consider adding +> at least a way to *tag* those deleted emails. +>=20 +> Having the above keys being defined as standard in notmuch don't seem +> like much to ask. +>=20 +> This may be a dissenting view here, but your mail is not that +> important. :P + +Hear! Hear! + +I also would like to have some natural way to mark things as "I never +expect to look at this again". Do I really need to keep track of every +vacation and calendar notice? Or every logfile I have my infrastructure +email to me, that doesn't really need to be in email, but was easily +shoehorned into the existing notification/logging side effects of mail? +My infrastructure is building new models for unit-level testing daily, I +don't need to keep track of every model for years, and I have been using +notmuch for years. Hmm, December 2009, it has been a while. :) + +I do set up a deleted tag for my own use, but it would be nice if that +were viewed as a little more natural use case by the software from the +./configure script. Yes Virginia, notmuch comes with NotMuch of a box. + +Thanks, +-Mark +