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+From: Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU>\r
+To: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Make notmuch-show-refresh-view retain state by\r
+ default\r
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+Quoth Tomi Ollila on Feb 19 at 11:43 am:\r
+> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:22:10 -0500, Austin Clements <amdragon@MIT.EDU> wrote:\r
+> > Based on the thread at id:"20120213152858.GO27039@mit.edu" it seems\r
+> > like people want show refresh to retain message state by default (I\r
+> > certainly do), rather than reset it by default. As a nice bonus, this\r
+> > fixes a broken test.\r
+> \r
+> Hmm\r
+> \r
+> Every '=' keypress in a thread removes 'unread' tag from next unread \r
+> message :o\r
+\r
+Oh dear. It's slightly subtler than that, though. Refreshing will\r
+remove the unread tag from the first message matching the query. (I\r
+suspect you had tag:unread in your query?) This is particularly\r
+confusing for state-retaining refresh because that message might not\r
+even be open.\r
+\r
+> That is probably desirable feature when refreshing view without\r
+> retaining state. Also, probably notmuch-show-refresh-view should\r
+> be fixed not to mark next message unread when retaining state ?\r
+\r
+I would argue that refresh should never have side-effects, so neither\r
+case should mark anything read. I'll send a v2.\r