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+From: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>\r
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+On Wed, 30 May 2012, Peter Wang <novalazy@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+> On Tue, 29 May 2012 08:00:00 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net> wrote:\r
+>> On Mon, May 28 2012, Peter Wang <novalazy@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+>> > % ./notmuch search --format=json --exclude=true -- thread:0000000000009598 tag:unread\r
+>> > [{"thread": "0000000000009598",\r
+>> > "timestamp": 1338231998,\r
+>> > "date_relative": "Today 05:06",\r
+>> > "matched": 1,\r
+>> > "total": 15,\r
+>> > "authors": "Mark Walters| Peter Wang",\r
+>> > "subject": "[PATCH v6 3/6] cli: make --entire-thread=false work for format=json.",\r
+>> > "tags": ["deleted", "draft", "replied", "sent", "unread"]}]\r
+>> >\r
+>> > Here is a thread I participated in. From this, my MUA displays "1/15",\r
+>> > suggesting that there is 1 unread message out of a total of 15. But\r
+>> > upon opening the thread, there are only 11 messages visible: 4 were\r
+>> > drafts (possibly deleted) which have been excluded. To the user, it\r
+>> > looks like some messages went missing.\r
+>> >\r
+>> > Therefore I would like search --output=summary --exclude=true\r
+>> > to report the total number of non-excluded messages. It doesn't need to\r
+>> > be via the "total" field; a new field would be fine.\r
+>> \r
+>> What you have pasted above is --output=json, not --output=summary. The\r
+>> formats are quite different. What are you asking for a change in?\r
+>\r
+> --output=summary is the default. --format=json only changes the\r
+> surface syntax.\r
+>\r
+> % ./notmuch search --output=summary --exclude=true -- thread:0000000000009598 tag:unread\r
+> thread:0000000000009598 Yest. 05:06 [1/15] Mark Walters| Peter Wang; [PATCH v6 3/6] cli: make --entire-thread=false work for format=json. (deleted draft replied sent unread)\r
+>\r
+>> But regardless, I don't think I would like to see the changes you\r
+>> suggest. I would like for the thread total to list the total number of\r
+>> messages in the thread, regardless whether they're excluded or not.\r
+>> Same for the tags. I think I want to continue to see if excluded\r
+>> messages are in a returned thread. The desire to hide the excluded\r
+>> messages in the output is why they're marked as hidden/not visible.\r
+>> \r
+>> Think about the excludes as acting on the search itself, and less on the\r
+>> output. We exclude messages from search, but if they show up in a\r
+>> returned thread we at least acknowledge that they're there.\r
+>\r
+> Understood; it's a two-phase process, and I wasn't making the\r
+> distinction. If it is the expected and useful behaviour, so be it.\r
+>\r
+> Maybe there is room for another keyword under --exclude?\r
+\r
+Yes that might be the best way to go. Something like --exclude=all and\r
+then excluded messages never appear anywhere?\r
+\r
+I think it should be easy: I will try to send a patch tonight.\r
+\r
+Best wishes\r
+\r
+Mark\r