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+From: Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz>\r
+To: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: Add customization group for replying\r
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+On Wed, Sep 05 2012, Tomi Ollila wrote:\r
+> On Tue, Sep 04 2012, Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:\r
+>\r
+>> On Tue, Sep 04 2012, Tomi Ollila wrote:\r
+>>> On Tue, Sep 04 2012, Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:\r
+>>>\r
+>>>> On Thu, Jul 26 2012, Michal Sojka wrote:\r
+>>>>> When one wants to customize the format of reply message, there nothing\r
+>>>>> to tell the user how to do it. Without knowing that construction of\r
+>>>>> reply buffer is actually implemented in the message package, it seems\r
+>>>>> that replying cannot be customized.\r
+>>>>>\r
+>>>>> Because I was getting annoyed by the empty line the between citation\r
+>>>>> line and the quoted message, I figured out that changing this is fairly\r
+>>>>> easy when one knows what to customize.\r
+>>>>>\r
+>>>>> This patch adds notmuch-reply customization group that that contains\r
+>>>>> references to the relevant customization options. The new group is easy\r
+>>>>> to find as it is shown as a result of running "M-x customize-group RET\r
+>>>>> notmuch RET".\r
+>>>>\r
+>>>> Ping.\r
+>>>>\r
+>>>> Any objections against applying?\r
+>>>\r
+>>> Nobody dares to say anything due to infamiliriaty of this spesific case ;/.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> I could not find any reference this has been made before.\r
+>>\r
+>> It's at least documented at\r
+>> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Group-Definitions.html\r
+>>\r
+>> The argument members is a list specifying an initial set of\r
+>> customization items to be members of the group. However, most often\r
+>> members is nil, and you specify the group's members by using the\r
+>> :group keyword when defining those members.\r
+>>\r
+>>> I could not find any discussion about this issue.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> With little effort I could not extract the customization tree to\r
+>>> stdout I could have attempted to grep whether there is same variable\r
+>>> in many groups.\r
+>>\r
+>> I tried to grep emacs sources and found the following:\r
+>>\r
+>> (defgroup message '((user-mail-address custom-variable)\r
+>> (defgroup gnus-message '((message custom-group))\r
+>> (defgroup ps-print-printer '((lpr custom-group))\r
+>> (defgroup customize '((widgets custom-group))\r
+>> (defgroup font-lock '((jit-lock custom-group))\r
+>>\r
+>> At least the first line corresponds exactly to what is proposed in my\r
+>> patch.\r
+>\r
+> Yes...\r
+>\r
+>\r
+> I was looking whether the same customization variable has been put\r
+> into multiple groups (now those are also in message-insertion group like\r
+> you have in your patch). (So far) I haven't seen that to be done\r
+> (not that it forbids doing so, just that there aren't issues about that).\r
+>\r
+> From consistency point of view all the customization variables in notmuch\r
+> groups start with "notmuch-" and these "message-" breaks this... An\r
+> alternative to the above could be the following:\r
+>\r
+> (defgroup notmuch-reply\r
+> '((notmuch-message-replied-tags custom-variable)\r
+> (message-insertion custom-group))\r
+> "..."\r
+\r
+Why not. Updated patch follows...\r
+\r
+-Michal\r
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