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+From: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>\r
+To: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] emacs: notmuch-hello status message refresh hook,\r
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+On Sun, Sep 02 2012, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
+\r
+> Hi all, v2 of [1] addressing review comments: added NEWS, improved\r
+> documentation, made the query customizable.\r
+\r
+Hi Jani\r
+\r
+Just today I was looking these older patches below and was about to\r
+comment those when these arrived.\r
+\r
+I think the idea is great, but there is just something in the integration...\r
+\r
+> [1] id:"37899e28dbf67e4620a53279a869be3174c02d6f.1339775602.git.jani@nikula.org"\r
+\r
+I see hooks a great way to extend some functionality outside of that\r
+package instead of touching it. Also, maybe I've been using emacs too\r
+much as these hooks as defcustom seems little weird. Yet as I grepped\r
+'defcustom.*hook' through emacs-24.2/lisp/*.el and I got many hits --\r
+and some of those even added some ":options" to those (but most those\r
+I looked did not specify anything to choose from).\r
+\r
+That said, I am not _personally_ very thilled about the idea of defining\r
+functions inside notmuch and then that work via a hook...\r
+\r
+Therefore I'd like to propose an alternative way to do this:\r
+\r
+Integrate this change status information to the notmuch-hello-insert-header ()\r
+function, disabled by default -- and add customization variable which\r
+can be used to enable it. like:\r
+\r
+ Welcome to notmuch. You have 22 195 messages.\r
+\r
+ Welcome to notmuch. You have 22 185 messages (-10).\r
+ Welcome to notmuch. You have 22 205 messages (+20).\r
+\r
+or second line for the status info.\r
+\r
+\r
+I would enable this feature if implemented this way. Also I would enable\r
+this implemented like this patch series if this is to be applied (I just \r
+give +-0). But this could also be implemented as a hook outside of notmuch\r
+relying that variable no-display is available in dynamic scope -- but without\r
+promising the variable will be there.\r
+\r
+> BR,\r
+> Jani.\r
+\r
+Finally, I hope my comment does not silence the audience but that this\r
+sparks more comment and good solution is used for this useful feature.\r
+\r
+Tomi\r
+\r
+>\r
+> Jani Nikula (5):\r
+> emacs: document the notmuch-hello no-display argument\r
+> emacs: add no-display arg to notmuch-hello-refresh-hook\r
+> test: fix hook-counter to accept the new no-display param\r
+> emacs: add notmuch hello refresh hook to display message count change\r
+> NEWS: notmuch-hello refresh hook changes\r
+>\r
+> NEWS | 18 ++++++++++++++++++\r
+> emacs/notmuch-hello.el | 46 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--\r
+> test/test-lib.el | 2 +-\r
+> 3 files changed, 63 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)\r
+>\r
+> -- \r
+> 1.7.9.5\r
+>\r
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