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+From: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>\r
+To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] Add 'compose' command\r
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+On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
+>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:34:30 +0300, Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> wrote:\r
+>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:\r
+>>>\r
+>>> > Running "notmuch compose" more than once within a second would result in\r
+>>> > identical message ids for the messages, which is not a good idea. That's\r
+>>> > not likely in interactive use, but the notmuch cli is highly scriptable,\r
+>>> > so someone is bound to hit this.\r
+>>> >\r
+>>> > Some paranoid might also be worried about "leaking" the time you run\r
+>>> > "notmuch compose"... which may be different from the actual time you\r
+>>> > send the message.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> It's still better than the current situation; nothing. In any case,\r
+>>> people that have not needed this would not be affected; their UI would\r
+>>> override the Message-ID.\r
+>>>\r
+>>> So do you have a better suggestion for a Message-ID?\r
+>>\r
+>> The easy way would be to just use g_mime_utils_generate_message_id()\r
+>> [1]. It doesn't give you any control of the part before @, but I'm not\r
+>> sure if that really matters.\r
+>\r
+> This is what gmime does:\r
+> g_strdup_printf ("%lu.%lu.%lu@%s", (unsigned long int) time (NULL),\r
+> (unsigned long int) getpid (), count++, fqdn);\r
+>\r
+> Which actually has some of the issues you mentioned.\r
+\r
+Thanks for looking into gmime source. The implementation is a bit of a\r
+disappointment.\r
+\r
+> I can do the same if you want (add pid and count). The advantage of\r
+> using our own format is that not only would it be more unique, but it\r
+> would not have "@fqdn".\r
+\r
+I'm starting to think doing our own would be the best, although I\r
+wouldn't object to using the gmime implementation "for now".\r
+\r
+>> Alternatively you can write your own according to e.g. [2]. Glib appears\r
+>> to have decent and portable support for pseudo random number\r
+>> generation. But why bother? I'd go with gmime.\r
+>\r
+> But gmime doesn't have anything random. I would actually prefer to\r
+> have something random though.\r
+\r
+Agreed.\r
+\r
+\r
+BR,\r
+Jani.\r