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+Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:37:25 +0200\r
+From: Jacek Generowicz <jacek.generowicz@cern.ch>\r
+To: <notmuch@notmuchmail.org>\r
+Subject: Message deletion wisdom\r
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+Hello,\r
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+Looking through the archives of this list, I see that the topic of\r
+message deletion is, if not controversial, then at least non-trivial.\r
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++ Requests for the provision of message deletion mechanisms have\r
+ appeared many times, and that various patches addressing the issue\r
+ have been submitted, and (IIUC) some of these are awaiting review\r
+ and might possibly make it into an official release in the future.\r
+\r
++ Having the 'deleted' tag cause messages to be deleted is,\r
+ apparently, fraught with peril of losing mail.\r
+\r
+\r
+I have two questions:\r
+\r
+\r
+1) Could you give me a summary of the dangers of allowing notmuch to\r
+ actually delete mail?\r
+\r
+2) How do you deal with mail that you would like to disappear from\r
+ your maildirs/IMAP servers? (An Emacs-based slant would be\r
+ particularle welcome.)\r
+\r
+\r
+Thank you for your input.\r