Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB41431FB6 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSmFpvP6SCAO for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [209.234.253.108]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC25431FB5 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.23.207] (dsl254-070-154.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.70.154]) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 960BDF973 for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:08:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4D6C00C7.9000705@fifthhorseman.net> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:08:39 -0500 From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101213 Icedove/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: notmuch Subject: Re: [Review] Re: new "crypto" branch providing full PGP/MIME support References: <4CF15D67.1070904@fifthhorseman.net> <87aak08fu8.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87fwsf9mip.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87tygl29vu.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87oc5yi9us.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87d3mdvjwz.fsf@bookbinder.fernseed.info> <87k4gk70ng.fsf@SSpaeth.de> <87sjv8i7v6.fsf@irigaray.ross.mayfirst.org> <87sjv86mp9.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <4D6BF0AA.3070706@fifthhorseman.net> <874o7o6ih5.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> In-Reply-To: <874o7o6ih5.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4C161DD2745A51DCB955C40A" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: notmuch List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:08:49 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4C161DD2745A51DCB955C40A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02/28/2011 02:56 PM, Jameson Rollins wrote: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:59:54 -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> But: what does the "signed" tag mean? i wouldn't want to necessarily >> conflate these four ideas: >=20 > These are good points, Daniel. However, I had actually just been > thinking of something much simpler, along the lines of just tagging > "signed" any message with a "multipart/signed" part, and "encrypted" an= y > message with a "multipart/encrypted" part. this is a fair answer to my questions, not an evasion -- you're selecting level 0 in both tracks, which is not a bad thing (it's certainly simpler to get right!) The outstanding question in my mind is whether those tags could be mistaken by a na=C3=AFve user for meaning one of the other concepts. Is there a way to name the tags to minimize that kind of confusion? --dkg --------------enig4C161DD2745A51DCB955C40A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJNbADIXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQwRUU1QkU5NzkyODJEODBCOUY3NTQwRjFD Q0QyRUQ5NEQyMTczOUU5AAoJEMzS7ZTSFznpo3kQAJ06AD+syC4vJoc0CSXSkf13 RiZ5pAFPHEyV4kRYuPlx30ZdGw9X1/DRaih2dvIj88PM2DoMV3N9TiKjaQOytTxL vsDDQNUp/9YvnAMgoMF6ddQPsfvwBEaYW256iTDSctQ3rtzX5MWmfrGhln5IOYqF CAxazaBPkyDgeyj46cRNLp7Z603Z1jzQ8ZVnGNnmjSuyeV0/BCx44cPrcWcnn4Pe OqEa1byFHbOAvZgdV4qN7dGGWFXshtyRnG9JPASObUyILatv3wESqxZPB2aXIF1h RLEsP/5soILZoNz/QerR55WriNPPZT4aBQyw20mJNm2corzX0b0t5b91gg6mxtrf xP3rocdXdZnbJ7hiX1ZnkG23VJLpSthZulFln6A9mZsnacRyT5rcVJCpqxZdKLxD cSf8Eqw4LoyVCRNBS7b8Uwj02XgQ6YpKCOQWrEcYuDDqoRBN5cb4SOKsQQmUKZ2h 7V1UvOA+DB5L5rriwgWPGhhq+kUkwN0SGa6eVbhQ4OY5eqenjHoCAz9Ad4QOnXkF 8XmBp69kuqvLK7dh5XWHY/RA5C9d2jYxn5wEHHj4tqKj/qCBeiYM5q//L2TW5EYk Pn0H2VGognOgY4wttjrNrV7LHiRouExCYJT11LqTq/FBPtOfE9fO6RfFSBQ3qfkN wM/3brd7I9Nv7eUOVsXS =sdGo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4C161DD2745A51DCB955C40A--