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From: Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 19:54:38 +0000
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Subject: Re: Github?
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Hi everyone,

I didn't see the previous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It
looks like you guys have your hands full and everything setup the way you
like it, so here's what I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you,
otherwise I'll just remove everything):

- Revert my changes (except for the CI)
- Set a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to
fork.
- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki
- Add a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page
- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and maybe
automate it later.

For the automatic pusher, I'll have to skip the README changes.

Wael

On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo <guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:
> > On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> [...]
> > >> Any thoughts on moving to Github?
> > > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org
> > Exactly!
>
> it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-)
>
> > >> I took the liberty of making the first move by
> > >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and
> binding/
> > >> into their own repository (conserving all their history).
> > > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch
> > > repository.
> > Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort
> > of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece
> > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,
> > especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is
> > somewhat high-handed.
>
>     well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distributed,  I see
> no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well  as on
> gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:
>
> *mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository*
>
>     and that the README.md starts by giving where the official  repo is,
> and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull
> requests. A good thing would be to have it  automatically  kept  in sync
> with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create
> a post-receive hook on the principal repository.
>
>     As a nice  side  effect  of  doing  this,  we'll  stop  having users
> complain  about  "not  being  on  github"...  Even  though  they  should
> understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being  able to
> track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.
>
> my 2 cents,
>
> --
> Guyzmo
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> notmuch@notmuchmail.org
> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
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Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>I didn&#39;t see the previous email about i=
t, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys have your hands full=
 and everything setup the way you like it, so here&#39;s what I&#39;ll do m=
yself (if it&#39;s acceptable with you, otherwise I&#39;ll just remove ever=
ything):</div>
<div><br></div><div>- Revert my changes (except for the CI)</div><div>- Set=
 a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork=
.</div><div>- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki</div><div>- Add =
a &quot;mirror of ..&quot; to the description on top of the page</div>
<div>- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and ma=
ybe automate it later.</div><div><br></div><div>For the automatic pusher, I=
&#39;ll have to skip the README changes.</div><div><br></div><div>Wael<br>
<br><div>On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:guy=
zmo%2Bnotmuch@m0g.net">guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:<br>
&gt; On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
jani@nikula.org" target=3D"_blank">jani@nikula.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wael.n=
asreddine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">wael.nasreddine@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>
[...]<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Any thoughts on moving to Github?<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org" target=
=3D"_blank">http://mid.gmane.org/<u></u>87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org</a><br>
&gt; Exactly!<br>
<br>
it feels like there&#39;s an echo in the room ;-)<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I took the liberty of making the first move by<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; creating <a href=3D"https://github.com/notmuch" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://github.com/notmuch</a> and splitting the contrib/ and binding/=
<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; into their own repository (conserving all their history).<br>
&gt; &gt; I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch<=
br>
&gt; &gt; repository.<br>
&gt; Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort<br>
&gt; of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece<b=
r>
&gt; of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,<br>
&gt; especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is<br>
&gt; somewhat high-handed.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 well, because of git&#39;s fundamental feature to be distribu=
ted, =C2=A0I see<br>
no reason why notmuch couldn&#39;t have a *mirror* on github, as well =C2=
=A0as on<br>
gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:<br>
<br>
*mirror of the <a href=3D"http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch" target=3D=
"_blank">http://git.notmuchmail.org/<u></u>git/notmuch</a> repository*<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and that the README.md starts by giving where the official =
=C2=A0repo is,<br>
and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull<br=
>
requests. A good thing would be to have it =C2=A0automatically =C2=A0kept =
=C2=A0in sync<br>
with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create<br=
>
a post-receive hook on the principal repository.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As a nice =C2=A0side =C2=A0effect =C2=A0of =C2=A0doing =C2=A0=
this, =C2=A0we&#39;ll =C2=A0stop =C2=A0having users<br>
complain =C2=A0about =C2=A0&quot;not =C2=A0being =C2=A0on =C2=A0github&quot=
;... =C2=A0Even =C2=A0though =C2=A0they =C2=A0should<br>
understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being =C2=A0able =
to<br>
track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.<br>
<br>
my 2 cents,<br>
<br>
--<br>
Guyzmo<br>
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k">http://notmuchmail.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/notmuch</a><br>
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