Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152C6431FBD for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:35:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LiNgdIxUorIn for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B178431FAE for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ReUA1n00B1ap0As56eb4D9; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:35:04 +0000 Received: from odin.tremily.us ([24.18.63.50]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Reb21n00l152l3L3ieb3CZ; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:35:04 +0000 Received: by odin.tremily.us (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 89EC1102CAD8; Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:35:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tremily.us; s=odin; t=1392258901; bh=O+fMGyvTDahKwmjQt8IC88ItFgXolb77gDenG5WZgP8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=gNPoncWfFIgCBUbiSpGCGv3ECRIoJf45xOZjyGOAvFlasW2mztFFXzUH6KW4bdhyP Qrry3q/BH/igyx7jIgAtKL05mBkYcIVRkrj4mgUHlrXUjsFFhvh/nHU9gXODOhsP9w c1rwj1dwo99fCIyJu5MXXkpkRySzUJFWias7pe+c= Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:35:01 -0800 From: "W. Trevor King" To: David Bremner Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/20] nmbug-status: Encode output using the user's locale Message-ID: <20140213023501.GH7538@odin.tremily.us> References: <87eh396e6e.fsf@zancas.localnet> <20140211201135.GJ14197@odin.tremily.us> <8761ol5mvy.fsf@zancas.localnet> <20140211223336.GM14197@odin.tremily.us> <877g8z4v4x.fsf@zancas.localnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877g8z4v4x.fsf@zancas.localnet> OpenPGP: id=39A2F3FA2AB17E5D8764F388FC29BDCDF15F5BE8; url=http://tremily.us/pubkey.txt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.22 (2013-10-16) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1392258904; bh=E52wqztPGdPxGow5qtxkaudKjWB+qiBOYQ/G8LKh59I=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NIRRWEHMveklSDgrLhHUYfJggbditgZ0jGt9Scl/dkIOHLXFjANNThFUWf3NG4toq 5RhfumCnr5S3WAuiVl92PWE93/P/HsGkAhD8yfYhA3AASMLuP7C7ZYOpkBJzLhvppI TJYGX4zJscEauI7HNrJoTgNXjre6I5vEc85A+dUqK0McIrhZ9M8UOPFawTEiWJJVbF qtzckPY+7Swu7IobtbKwFdDc2K9un81GoLkXECcZI0IdQp2xo9o065/8GbAQZaW5l3 a9pfkkPVcNKWpa7pTAGNt5zARyhF14RtMH06zd9xn9BSlb4HCdGdg94XT7hrgNCNz5 EWPTghyPIlGEg== Cc: Tomi Ollila , notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 02:35:13 -0000 --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:13:50PM -0400, David Bremner wrote: > W. Trevor King writes: > > I don't understand why your choice of LANG should depend on the > > interactive-ness of an invocation. >=20 > It's not the choice of LANG, but rather the acceptability of > crashing with an unhandled exception. I'd be fine with catching the exception and dying with a more compact error message. The script would still be dying though. > > The upside of a configurable language is that the user gets output > > in their preferred encoding (UTF-8 or not) and=E2=80=94with a bit of > > additional gettext work=E2=80=94in their preferred language. That soun= ds > > like a fair trade to me. >=20 > The downside is that it introduces another error condition into the > script. The data from notmuch is unicode; conversion to most non-utf8 > locales is lossy and can cause crashes. Folks on Microsoft OSes might prefer UTF-16 [1], which is a valid preference. > That's why I don't like the idea of enabling it without some > explicit option or configuration choice. I think LANG is an explicit configuration choice ;). I'm fine punting on this though, since UTF-8 works for me. Should I rebase this to the end of the remaining series and resubmit? Then this patch can cook on the list until we find a user that doesn't like UTF-8 ;). Cheers, Trevor [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_in_Microsoft_Windows --=20 This email may be signed or encrypted with GnuPG (http://www.gnupg.org). For more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJS/C9TAAoJEKKfehoaNkbtjIMQAIj6jRFTTd+cPF94TvpYqheQ fVnDzblKg7zDaJ+ZyF8BVJzjh3ryWPqJ1CbWp48AyIB8DFQr9GPltE6bGIJIl54E jCyD20WzNO2SYQBZO9hoO5FuSEX99n5a8vP+SjCbgk0kCT+GsBypDNflDLbcdhTq uwCslAFcxQBmc2YkH0eIer8gJmny6kWmtLuFlPKuXiiGqGbRJD77fCNXAMh85wKl UIbtw+fU0brNIRrnMN7REIL+vJWDAe6if/qyoS1r/Uhotho26a2DElTTCMJuQVEG pfjyWvL65/Y5XvOd8mObxjDTq5ijkfHvp2ec3l/91EDO8cU/qRJIf6NDCHdeaufk EIRpt6sU9O26g9gjxgJ1qNv4bJJKWTshgndLRyM8/PL7vitDKXluqJN+qWv+RtTU /ZSNE0aiqaKnVD10WH29JTFxLghqBvRzetz0ACp5/aY6q3MLX9kVh0k5yCvtPckn I2SjcFGq25G7fHtlDkQ0HVHD/WRahaGRkKm2alpSdWzFRaLp4s47j4Mcp2rlzv+x 8CBlImof+axYPOEHTZ1ilJy/uZEcVOPNzNzojn1lvqh30d6pjUN9V2R65/+KqYFe cYyj8P7287WiG1bPusJ4HpXMqymmM4lyZElUJ3TvLS7m0F03obz1f0Uq4h7rWvA7 jiFmWgmS4pbjg5yvv21U =oFX0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3VRmKSg17yJg2MZg--