Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BAE42119F for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lVSm-i23xYLN for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD1B421192 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so1130887qyk.5 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CrNMxgOph42K+EMMLmPznnNqUq3bAdK/8lc/w2484Y4=; b=miAXXwuC79xrcSYOkpgEJOORZT3AlEyA+ofps8AB/gkt1T57NUOqQkv1xgxcK44Dt/ JYpIvzIYb1wECR9BTYHoizl+k+0ntgK5E5i+XwcpRoWlsBpx4ZFq1ZuxDF2eoCjppOw0 uJgjaScHz0erWUEKRDduBFQoGgryVhODciFv0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.95.20 with SMTP id b20mr1061251qcn.115.1309391583546; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: amdragon@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.249.193 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.249.193 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:53:03 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: P7iVeyOH7sStIi3KcUhHfBFK8-U Message-ID: Subject: Re: Preventing the user shooting themself in the foot From: Austin Clements To: Carl Worth Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636427072358e4604a6e27c26 Cc: Notmuch Mail X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:53:05 -0000 --001636427072358e4604a6e27c26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've spent embarrassingly little time in the emacs UI, so my opinions on this should be taken lightly, but I feel like all of the bindings are of the form "if W, do X and Y, otherwise do Z" and, as a result, I'm actively afraid of what's going to happen when I hit a key. I would much prefer bindings with simple, highly predictable behavior. I'm sure there's some workflow for which these contextual, compound bindings are fantastic, but other workflows wind up fighting against them. I don't have a specific proposal in mind, but Gmail's bindings seem like a good model to emulate (the actions, at least; I've never been too fond of the specific key choices). On Jun 29, 2011 6:40 PM, "Carl Worth" wrote: --001636427072358e4604a6e27c26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've spent embarrassingly little time in the emacs UI, so my opinion= s on this should be taken lightly, but I feel like all of the bindings are = of the form "if W, do X and Y, otherwise do Z" and, as a result, = I'm actively afraid of what's going to happen when I hit a key. I w= ould much prefer bindings with simple, highly predictable behavior. I'm= sure there's some workflow for which these contextual, compound bindin= gs are fantastic, but other workflows wind up fighting against them.

I don't have a specific proposal in mind, but Gmail's bindings s= eem like a good model to emulate (the actions, at least; I've never bee= n too fond of the specific key choices).

On Jun 29, 2011 6:40 PM, "Carl Worth" = <cworth@cworth.org> wrote:
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