Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627B7431FB6 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.798 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z1fSKCexxav1 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D566431FAE for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id t11so5461532wey.26 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=x0EUQ1bXibCpyw4l4OumWO50TEpGDR1GEt5ccjry30c=; b=OgKY5MI5kv2hoDwAM53ZuyydBOgzEviYqV0mWZ8N+BEp/W7XjZ8Tn5yMSxmoymUuzQ JicLbsEBhB4nm8Naqm8/94/7sO3k/eJHwx32A3h1+cDJMWillDBuD5Q54apr8rUeJWtZ WUEAepqDBeJVub1TbROIFrsZhj3t6qUAqqpAn2OuzSMNf/nQrwlEe9E4AErZzUSPRwCI aoHV00q66GpyDLPH3n5VR3OvNBvPGZtnLfgAKzHqyrq8iywWRvH+sfEeDJSsa36dltHj ESgtkf7zsUW8NR4LFujGUN9EECPCMlqgTCxs2pN/NK1o8UF6Y38SL97YspveIv2dprPG 0Jmg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.88.42 with SMTP id bd10mr20743293wib.8.1354043230970; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.35.138 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:07:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87zk24ctko.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> <50B3871B.2050509@gmail.com> <87r4ngcl00.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> <50B48627.9040409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:07:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: gmail label support patch available for oflineimap From: Rainer M Krug To: Michal Nazarewicz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0444e927cae2cc04cf7ec1f2 Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 19:07:14 -0000 --f46d0444e927cae2cc04cf7ec1f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27 November 2012 18:00, Michal Nazarewicz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27 2012, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > So from your point of view - what would be the best / most consistent > > approach with gmail? Sync All Mail folder (and Inbox) with offlineimap > > and sync the label information via notmuch? Would definitely seem to > > make sense, as it deals with labels on the gmail side which is nothing > > different to tags in notmuch. > > So why do we need the offlineimap step here? In the scenario you've > described, notmuch needs to speak IMAP, than why can't it just download > the mail all together. > Yes - offlineimap is not needed actually, but I personally I see notmuch as an indexing / tagging program for a mailabox in maildir format, which means local. So all changes are done locally, and not bad on an imap server (or synching tags with an imap server). This would be the job for offlineimap. But actually I don't care which program is doing it. > > > But I definitely share your concerns about modifying the emails itself. > > Big deal. Email headers are modified all the time by various pieces of > software. > Well - it is ust my feeling that the lesser changes are done to the email and its headers, the better. Cheers, Rainer > > -- > Best regards, _ _ > .o. | Liege of Serenely Enlightened Majesty of o' \,=3D./ `o > ..o | Computer Science, Micha=C5=82 =E2=80=9Cmina86=E2=80=9D Nazarewicz = (o o) > ooo +------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo-- > > --=20 Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany) Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology Stellenbosch University South Africa Tel : +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44 Cell: +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98 Fax (F): +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44 Fax (D): +49 - (0)3 21 21 25 22 44 email: Rainer@krugs.de Skype: RMkrug --f46d0444e927cae2cc04cf7ec1f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 27 November 2012 1= 8:00, Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 27 2012, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> So from your point of view - what would be the best / most consistent<= br> > approach with gmail? Sync All Mail folder (and Inbox) with offlineimap=
> and sync the label information via notmuch? Would definitely seem to > make sense, as it deals with labels on the gmail side which is nothing=
> different to tags in notmuch.

So why do we need the offlineimap step here? In the scenario you'= ve
described, notmuch needs to speak IMAP, than why can't it just download=
the mail all together.

Yes - offlineimap is not ne= eded actually, but I personally I see notmuch as an indexing / tagging prog= ram for a mailabox in maildir format, which means local. So all changes are= done locally, and not bad on an imap server (or synching tags with an imap= server). This would be the job for offlineimap. But actually I don't c= are which program is doing it.
 

> But I definitely share your concerns about modifying the emails itself= .

Big deal.  Email headers are modified all the time by various pi= eces of
software.

Well - it is ust my feeling that the les= ser changes are done to the email and its headers, the better.

Cheer= s,

Rainer

 

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Best regards,                  = ;                     &nb= sp; _     _
.o. | Liege of Serenely Enlightened Majesty of      o' \= ,=3D./ `o
..o | Computer Science,  Micha=B3 “mina86” Nazarewicz &nbs= p;  (o o)
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Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology= , SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)

Centre of Excellence for Invasion Biology
Stellenbosch UniversitySouth Africa

Tel :       +33 - (0)9 53 10 27 44
C= ell:       +33 - (0)6 85 62 59 98
Fax (F):     =   +33 - (0)9 58 10 27 44

Fax (D):    +49 - (0)3 21 21= 25 22 44

email:      Rainer@krugs.de

Skype:      RMkrug
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