Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188E56DE0B27 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 02:59:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.171, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qA7FCJFvhoq1 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 02:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DE2F6DE0B25 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2016 02:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 128so122086380wmz.1 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:59:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nikula-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id :mime-version:content-type; bh=wkHlZy74e4xfgqza/dwKAvXDPYwhvg7l8Tvu2x+gEBU=; b=UfHHAWreR6g/dFw1EcTzniSYfz2RQbB05rnTD31EL8viUH8oGpz5eaikjhfLZLp8MM 4eAjTckdODwVER8DkfL712hm5mrupAubpV7VN1GrLnvfIm8vrpJ1lKrm8yf98xRbN2I7 FebPHSupj3i2eay2jET/conBR1s3ZSGkS8GYyj/08QzvbgOXFg1L2wdKH8KANp/V2mHh IO55LOLh5AsxHov6jqQhsz9d8ITYwOxDpBTry5pJn+xAByyr15wB8G0SXMvPAXh/Wqr6 YcpJqiU+1GQ94Fk1KsArH1GR5xvErmjdbMOJxNSRhOO4n0vin6m+74vunW0zCtKC8DdK GY5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=wkHlZy74e4xfgqza/dwKAvXDPYwhvg7l8Tvu2x+gEBU=; b=AqtivZArLVFOvlH6Ibql70xIh35J0htQV12wnZ5XSvNocjDIlMEp10f0OY4Gynrdho Hj9wAMRORcTogf8WLZNMwz2LoC2BF+g4tjlhnkqYQHdDowMgxvwWBP4DebqrM0FPcNu1 u/NsmFXWZcZrjV5rJkteRhixnbuJtIu54Y8Syw+z9sMmIzSyX977HNfPF+nB4A2lklvS izqJ8IIEU0pJex0i5tFDT1m9/X23ltQmn30jkjU94R24fpqzpQi+uXdUklhq30shNMG7 jJrF3Ct0ou643fYBJY3Mdb0nZuUnTVnjusuHTeLJ/uae+Tzswvl+eXIjVCyGbCxzpYiC ID6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSHFrOdn0eO9NrphHhpTT4S7n5w/CYMiAJY+gCTvUzvXBEzvLARzi07g8dvAe6wWA== X-Received: by 10.28.47.23 with SMTP id v23mr25970032wmv.7.1454842779858; Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mobile-access-bcee08-161.dhcp.inet.fi. [188.238.8.161]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t3sm24418609wjz.11.2016.02.07.02.59.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:59:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jani Nikula To: David Edmondson , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: hello: display jump key next to saved search when available In-Reply-To: References: <1450031043-24038-1-git-send-email-jani@nikula.org> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21+34~ge1fb729 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 12:58:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87y4aw3hy6.fsf@nikula.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2016 10:59:45 -0000 On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, David Edmondson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13 2015, Jani Nikula wrote: >> Display the shortcut jump key next to the saved search name in notmuch >> hello, if one is defined for the saved search. > > I quite like the idea of this (and Mark's followup), but I wonder about > the utility. With notmuch-jump, as soon as I hit `j' a list of the > possible keystrokes and the corresponding search is presented, so I > don't need to refer to the list in the hello buffer to know what to do. Much of the point in this was to discuss how to make the UI, and the very capable features we have, more discoverable to new uses. Most people won't start by reading the documentation (which we don't even really have for notmuch-emacs). Keeping the UI uncluttered and clean at the same time is hard. Perhaps promoting the '?' key in my other patch is enough. Perhaps an alternative would be to highlight the 'j' key in "Saved searches: [edit]" somehow. BR, Jani.