Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D109431FBD for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:14:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1p5WexbjTHEd for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC7C9431FAF for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w8so7873103qac.19 for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1gnrCv9mZvsf0ZjK1zLAnIU5P+guJerclnu8n7fCs6g=; b=l+eR9sJPm2SkmL1yRKm3u6aevP7HqS7977ZaiNJ7OUg/lofJcUTAvu4Gfdrk6BY3iB QQhsD0p8ZAv3wAMurXqLkBmLfe+5gf8GCWG4LyKLz/lgVeRiSXh+tt5wr7GjeXzaWU33 qfShj57vqNogYNLWvKGD2iUWONc8YyTjUSDz6qKqiJzfSBTJ5vCUqtSdGiHu8/PU3D/N z7GFVCf8+nFvt97dWlJzNzKd2jnM/nrI2cSezZUS9CdEHYhwzimapqPrcctdLzBlmcvX MVBCDKhQw1KFfOUS98UdIJApMKYAQN+1gLag45wIFFJZut0ftjjMMW351OWFDeR/epE2 q21Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.55.83 with SMTP id t19mr41331571qag.42.1399950837169; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.19.242 with HTTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87mwemv29t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> References: <87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org> <87mwemv29t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 22:13:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: github From: Felipe Contreras To: Jameson Graef Rollins Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: "notmuch@notmuchmail.org" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 03:14:08 -0000 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote: > On Sun, Apr 27 2014, Jani Nikula wrote: >> To be honest, I am slightly concerned by the popularity of >> github. Despite being a hosting site primarily for open source, it *is* >> a proprietary platform. Source code hosting is plain git, but AFAIK all >> the rest (review process, issue tracking, and so on) is pretty much at >> the whim and mercy of the company running it. They make a change, you >> adapt. If you don't want to adapt, it's not easy to switch over to >> another service provider either if you've built your process around >> github. >> >> So even if the features of github amazed me (they don't), I would have >> pretty strong reservations about relying on them. > > There seems to have been a lot of discussion on the list recently about > github. I just want to express my very strong agreement with Jani's > sentiment above. A lot of us in the notmuch community moved to notmuch > because we didn't want our email controlled by a single service provider > (e.g. gmail). I don't want our development cycle controlled by github > (or any other proprietary SCM) for many of the same reasons. How would our development cycle be controlled by GitHub? The whole point of a distributed VCS is that there isn't a single central repository you rely on. -- Felipe Contreras