From: Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz>
To: Tomi Ollila <tomi.ollila@iki.fi>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: Add customization group for replying
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Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 18:29:02 +0200
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On Tue, Sep 04 2012, Tomi Ollila wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04 2012, Michal Sojka <sojkam1@fel.cvut.cz> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26 2012, Michal Sojka wrote:
>>> When one wants to customize the format of reply message, there nothing
>>> to tell the user how to do it.  Without knowing that construction of
>>> reply buffer is actually implemented in the message package, it seems
>>> that replying cannot be customized.
>>>
>>> Because I was getting annoyed by the empty line the between citation
>>> line and the quoted message, I figured out that changing this is fairly
>>> easy when one knows what to customize.
>>>
>>> This patch adds notmuch-reply customization group that that contains
>>> references to the relevant customization options. The new group is easy
>>> to find as it is shown as a result of running "M-x customize-group RET
>>> notmuch RET".
>>
>> Ping.
>>
>> Any objections against applying?
>
> Nobody dares to say anything due to infamiliriaty of this spesific case ;/.
>
> I could not find any reference this has been made before.

It's at least documented at
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Group-Definitions.html

  The argument members is a list specifying an initial set of
  customization items to be members of the group. However, most often
  members is nil, and you specify the group's members by using the
  :group keyword when defining those members.

> I could not find any discussion about this issue.
>
> With little effort I could not extract the customization tree to
> stdout I could have attempted to grep whether there is same variable
> in many groups.

I tried to grep emacs sources and found the following:

(defgroup message '((user-mail-address custom-variable)
(defgroup gnus-message '((message custom-group))
(defgroup ps-print-printer '((lpr custom-group))
(defgroup customize '((widgets custom-group))
(defgroup font-lock '((jit-lock custom-group))

At least the first line corresponds exactly to what is proposed in my
patch.

Cheers,
-Michal