Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38751431FC9 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:51:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HG5tcQjSoZXp for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86F5F431FC7 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 23:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5X7a-0003mF-DM; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:51:15 +0000 Received: from 93-97-24-31.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.24.31] helo=localhost) by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5X7Y-00029S-Ng; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:51:14 +0000 From: Mark Walters To: David Bremner , Jameson Graef Rollins , Jani Nikula , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] notmuch cli config changes In-Reply-To: <87pq05icse.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> References: <871ucts54t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87y5f0fhtd.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87fw12nf7w.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87k3qd92sw.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87a9r9o4ks.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> <87pq05icse.fsf@convex-new.cs.unb.ca> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.14+255~gff3cc55 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:51:19 +0000 Message-ID: <87liaslki0.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Sender-Host-Address: 93.97.24.31 X-QM-SPAM-Info: Sender has good ham record. :) X-QM-Body-MD5: 7dd74e3e182730a3e9dbc78d230f706c (of first 20000 bytes) X-SpamAssassin-Score: -1.8 X-SpamAssassin-SpamBar: - X-SpamAssassin-Report: The QM spam filters have analysed this message to determine if it is spam. We require at least 5.0 points to mark a message as spam. This message scored -1.8 points. Summary of the scoring: * -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, * medium trust * [138.37.6.40 listed in list.dnswl.org] * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider * (markwalters1009[at]gmail.com) * 0.5 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:51:23 -0000 > Jameson Graef Rollins writes: > >> But don't get me wrong, the CLI is one of the things that makes notmuch >> so incredibly awesome. It's an email swiss army knife that's there when >> you need it. But given that even I often need to look at the man page >> during my occasional CLI usage, I just don't want to see it get to >> overcrowded. > > Well, maybe this should be a discussion about how to organize the CLI > documentation so that more commonly used options are easy to find. That > would indeed be a side effect of making less commonly used options > controlled by environment variables, and documenting the environment > variables at the bottom of the man pages as per tradition. But I don't > think this is the only way or even the best way to achieve good > documentation. I think one of the problems for documentation is that we have two classes of "user" of the cli: one is actually people and one is front ends (and yes scripting does blur the boundary). Would it be worth splitting based on that. For example, the --format-version is really only for front-end use. --format=text is for human use, whereas the other options are mostly front-end (text0 might be an exception) Best wishes Mark