Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFBF431FBC for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:22:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[none] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5VNbAshjhK0I for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cryptobitch.de (cryptobitch.de [88.198.7.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 119FE431FAE for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.jade-hamburg.de (unknown [85.183.11.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cryptobitch.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CC20530E40 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:22:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.jade-hamburg.de (Postfix, from userid 401) id D42CFDF2A9; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:22:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de (dslb-088-075-032-221.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.75.32.221]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: teythoon) by mail.jade-hamburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14185DF2A7 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:22:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from teythoon by thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1S0h32-0006XQ-Td for notmuch@notmuchmail.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:22:00 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Justus Winter <4winter@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> User-Agent: alot/0.21+ To: notmuch mailing list References: <20120221002921.8534.57091@thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de> <20120221155312.GB30513@mit.edu> <20120222151745.4213.93513@thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <20120222151745.4213.93513@thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de> Message-ID: <20120223222200.17796.11840@thinkbox.jade-hamburg.de> Subject: Re: notmuch as a shared object aka library knigge Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:22:00 +0100 X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:22:07 -0000 Quoting Justus Winter (2012-02-22 16:17:45) >Quoting Austin Clements (2012-02-21 16:53:12) >>As always, patches welcome! > >Well, hacking on c code in my free time is not my idea of fun and I'm >not familiar with the code base, so I'd appreciate it if someone who >is in a better position to whip up a patch would step up and do so. That wasn't meant to sound as harsh as it probably did. I seriously hope that someone is around who enjoys to hack on the c/c++ part of the library and is willing fix problems in it. I've got a lot of ideas how to improve the python bindings and have been refactoring it in the past few days. And while doing so I came across a few problems in the library, one of which was so easy to fix that I did just that. And I worked around the two functions (that I know of) that call exit(3) by conditionally raising exceptions in the python bindings, but this is only meant as a intermediate fix, a hack that should be removed as soon as the library is fixed. But most of those problems require api changes and some kind of idea on how to do this in a consistent and extensible way while hopefully providing a smooth transition to the new api. And I don't feel that I'm in a good position to do this (I know next to nothing about symbol versions and linker magic) so I mentioned the problems and asked for help on this issue. Btw, I think that we can keep the python api stable even if we change the underlying library. So if there isn't actually anyone who directly links against libnotmuch (maybe the mutt fork does?) we may not even worry so much about api stability of libnotmuch. Happy hacking, Justus