Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C436DE0159 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:40:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.019 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.019 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.019] autolearn=disabled Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aLCCyf6hSxsW for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [162.247.75.118]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626FD6DE0297 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fifthhorseman.net (unknown [38.109.115.130]) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0991DF98B; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6990320217; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:38:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor To: David Bremner , notmuch@notmuchmail.org Subject: Re: [RFC2 Patch 5/5] lib: iterator API for message properties In-Reply-To: <8737oufn6f.fsf@zancas.localnet> References: <1463927339-5441-1-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> <1464608999-14774-1-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> <1464608999-14774-6-git-send-email-david@tethera.net> <8760tthfuy.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87pos1u14p.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <87eg8ht2sb.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <87lh2ofpxk.fsf@zancas.localnet> <87inxrqyv1.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> <8737oufn6f.fsf@zancas.localnet> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.22+16~g87b7bd4 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:38:28 -0400 Message-ID: <87y46mpcbf.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2016 14:40:16 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On Fri 2016-06-03 08:54:00 -0400, David Bremner wrote: > Sure, where do you think that kind of documentation is appropriate? > There is the giant comment about the database schema in > lib/database.cc. Actually I just noticed I already failed to update that > for libconfig stuff. That comment seems OK, but it won't be exposed to the people who are in that middle range (python or ruby programmers but not C programmers). Do we have a place for this kind of mid-level documenation? > [ dkg wrote: ] >> * for messages which have multiple files, which file is actually indexed > > yes. Although rather than storing that, I think the right answer is more > like "all of them". I don't think we do this, do we? Is this a bug? is it tracked somewhere? >> It's worth noticing that the stuff in "elsewhere" is the stuff that >> won't propagate across a dump/restore unless it's explicitly in the dump >> somehow. We currently fail to restore thread-id and which file is >> actually indexed across a dump/restore :/ > > The thread-id is in some sense derived from the message itself. Not in a > reproducable way, but still, the dump file is the minimal set of extra > data needed to reconstruct an equivalent database (pax threading bugs). This is exactly my point -- i don't care about reproducibility of the exact numbering, but , the thread-id is *not* reproducible from the message sets. This is not only because of the ghost message leakage bug documented in T590-thread-breakage.sh, but also because threads can be joined by a message that is later removed (e.g., the "notmuch-join" script in id:87egabu5ta.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net ). >> I think you've convinced me that it's good to go ahead with the >> properties, assuming it's scoped as defined above. I still think that >> we need a better story for upgrades to the dump format in general, but >> maybe this isn't the place to make that particular case. > > I'm not sure what you have in mind, something more ambitious than the > header added post 0.22? Can you point me to the definition for that header? i still don't understand what the batch-tag:2 part means. 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