Return-Path: X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19020431E64 for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 10:53:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HOnUktxZ7PAG for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 10:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f47.google.com (mail-ee0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE75C431FDA for ; Sat, 3 May 2014 10:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f47.google.com with SMTP id b15so4060197eek.6 for ; Sat, 03 May 2014 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=p9tnXEOe+yxqkS7HlJkhJq6TqkpwxfyM4XqmWykL0wE=; b=gQjzW4Shm+UhjjFWDidJ8vUw4N5R5bXHUUczpq+4jVEutlD8oONL/8nI3YGSQ851At SN9AGeScWzbojkNYWWq5i6iVt5Fu64gJtDLKmUeqEGeUT/SDthqlu6athFT0JbEglXM5 w14kLXMzXXYg8ebxOi4GyOSTAmIyiCO1W5MsS5XCtXknpLmnisrWVNtiaUT2bwhdW1nS JfN+i6jnR+Qtfa8zKAtzxg/1pOpqDQTwV+N2nCJm8QTqNxCnCk57GoLwwLlZLF10VKfZ CgZI0QeM1o/1ctZT2JEjOQ5pGcCm3m+y2uggDUTK5Sa5zey6TdROciqylS6D6pWhHjeh tGEw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQklTyKDr5dsz8bVwSqaue4wO0vzEMBhySlSZ6cjjWxDautXhffEksSenvTi1fKTysDl/e5e X-Received: by 10.14.115.1 with SMTP id d1mr21658798eeh.30.1399139596169; Sat, 03 May 2014 10:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dsl-hkibrasgw2-58c36f-91.dhcp.inet.fi. [88.195.111.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u46sm14495808eel.1.2014.05.03.10.53.14 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 03 May 2014 10:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jani Nikula To: David Mazieres expires 2014-08-01 PDT , Mark Walters Subject: Re: folder and path completely broken in HEAD? In-Reply-To: <87iopmonzn.fsf@ta.scs.stanford.edu> References: <87oazfo3w2.fsf@ta.scs.stanford.edu> <87zjiz8hft.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> <87iopmonzn.fsf@ta.scs.stanford.edu> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.18~rc0+2~gbc64cdc (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 20:53:13 +0300 Message-ID: <87tx96ycja.fsf@nikula.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 17:53:24 -0000 On Sat, 03 May 2014, dm-list-email-notmuch@scs.stanford.edu wrote: > Mark Walters writes: > >>> All the way back. Now you are saying there will be no convenient way to >>> match just the "mail.class" part without the year? How very >>> distressing. Ugh. >> >> Hi >> >> I am not quite sure what you are meaning by hierarchically group >> messages. Searching for path:dir/foo/bar/** should give all messages in >> all directories beneath dir/foo/bar. > > The problem is that the maildir++ spec disallows such pathnames. If I > need compatibility with maildir++ (for instance for an imap server), at > least on a per-year basis, then my maildirs have to have names like: > > 2013/.foo.foo > 2013/.foo.bar > 2013/.foo.baz > 2014/.foo.foo > 2014/.foo.bar > 2014/.foo.baz > > So if I want a way to aggregate all my foo mail in a single search, > right now I just ask for folder:foo. Will there be any equivalent in > the new notmuch? Given that we're in feature freeze and ready for an imminent release of 0.18, I think it's pretty safe to say, no. --- It's not going to help you, but I'll mention a few of the issues the old folder: search had, which we also had complaints about, and which would have been quite hard to fix while preserving the behaviour you want. In short, we considered the old folder: search broken. Given layout: Foo/{cur,new} foo/{cur,new} fooing/{cur,new} bar/foo/{cur,new} cur new It was impossible to refer to the top level folder. It was impossible to refer to foo without also referring to Foo, fooing, and bar/foo. In your layout, if you also had 2013/.bar.foo, folder:foo would match that as well. To not match that, you would have to include each folder:.foo.xxx in the search. BR, Jani.