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[187.163.100.70]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm5211263yhb.6.2013.04.02.13.03.21 + (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); + Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 13:55:13 -0600 +From: Felipe Contreras +To: David Bremner , + notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Message-ID: <515b37a1821fc_146e1045e1094149@nysa.mail> +In-Reply-To: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> +References: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> +Subject: RE: the future of notmuch-vim? +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:03:24 -0000 + +Hi, + +Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't following the ml. + +David Bremner wrote: + +> There is apparently still some people that use it (although notice the +> "Vote" column is 0). +> +> On the other hand +> +> - The vim frontend is afaik the last thing depending on the legacy text +> output format. +> +> - The plugin seems to be only semi-functional at the moment; in a quick +> test I found a message that didn't display it's content, and one that +> displayed the content, along with "junk" from the internal +> representation. + +Indeed, I'd say the code is very poor at best. + +> - There are now several alternatives for people whose only motivation to +> use the vim frontend was dislike of emacs (alot and notmuch-mutt). + +I did try the emacs frontend, and it was not working properly for me at the +time, and I believe I documented my issues. It was not just my dislike of emacs +that motivated me to write notmuch-vim-ruby. + +> There are several alternative vim frontends floating around in (at +> least) ruby and python. I don't if they are better or worse +> functionality wise. + +I'd say notmuch-vim-ruby is the best one, but of course I'm biased :) + +> I'm considering stopping building debian packages for notmuch-vim, since +> I don't see any current prospects for the package improving. I'm not +> sure what the equivalent thing to do upstream would be, perhaps moving +> it to contrib. Or, deprecating it and then removing it. +> +> What do people think? + +Personally I think notmuch-vim should be replaced with notmuch-vim-ruby. I did +try the python version, and remember discussing options with the guy developing +it, but nothing happened out of it, and I think the ruby version is superior. + +I'd be open to discuss the options here, but I think notmuch-vim-ruby is the +only real option. + +Cheers. + +-- +Felipe Contreras -- 2.26.2