From bfbd3f2d3391c5d0a2ae6eccc1c7d3c7fec93b67 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Mark Walters Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:12:36 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Re: proposal to remove contrib/notmuch-vim and contrib/notmuch-deliver --- 0a/afa77e5f1d3a6036c851ed0fc2e72558deb2d5 | 137 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 137 insertions(+) create mode 100644 0a/afa77e5f1d3a6036c851ed0fc2e72558deb2d5 diff --git a/0a/afa77e5f1d3a6036c851ed0fc2e72558deb2d5 b/0a/afa77e5f1d3a6036c851ed0fc2e72558deb2d5 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..59c932148 --- /dev/null +++ b/0a/afa77e5f1d3a6036c851ed0fc2e72558deb2d5 @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D59431FDD + for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:12:48 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: 1.401 +X-Spam-Level: * +X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.401 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, + FREEMAIL_REPLY=2.499, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] + autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id gddc+VnxDFVk for ; + Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail2.qmul.ac.uk (mail2.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.6.6]) + (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE306431FDB + for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 02:12:43 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from smtp.qmul.ac.uk ([138.37.6.40]) + by mail2.qmul.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.71) + (envelope-from ) + id 1VHVcD-0007zE-Cv; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 10:12:40 +0100 +Received: from 93-97-24-31.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.24.31] helo=localhost) + by smtp.qmul.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.71) + (envelope-from ) + id 1VHVcC-00081u-SN; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 10:12:37 +0100 +From: Mark Walters +To: Sebastian Schwarz , + notmuch mailing list +Subject: Re: proposal to remove contrib/notmuch-vim and + contrib/notmuch-deliver +In-Reply-To: + <874na0y6x3.fsf@pineapple.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> +References: <87ioygrkhj.fsf@zancas.localnet> + + <87a9jsriii.fsf@zancas.localnet> + <874na0y6x3.fsf@pineapple.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> +User-Agent: Notmuch/0.15.2+269~g01f5508 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/23.4.1 + (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) +Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 10:12:36 +0100 +Message-ID: <87r4d3r5rv.fsf@qmul.ac.uk> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii +X-Sender-Host-Address: 93.97.24.31 +X-QM-SPAM-Info: Sender has good ham record. :) +X-QM-Body-MD5: eb670bd230e51f57adebafb7d62a89c8 (of first 20000 bytes) +X-SpamAssassin-Score: 0.6 +X-SpamAssassin-SpamBar: / +X-SpamAssassin-Report: The QM spam filters have analysed this message to + determine if it is + spam. We require at least 5.0 points to mark a message as spam. + This message scored 0.6 points. Summary of the scoring: + * 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail + provider * (markwalters1009[at]gmail.com) + * 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails + * -0.4 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list +X-QM-Scan-Virus: ClamAV says the message is clean +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 09:12:48 -0000 + + +On Wed, 04 Sep 2013, Sebastian Schwarz wrote: +> Hello, +> +> On 2013-04-09, David Bremner wrote: +>> David Belohrad writes: +>> +>>> is actually someone using notmuch deliver? +> +> I am using notmuch-deliver with maildrop. This allows me to +> filter and tag based on any header field of the message. +> +>>> [...] +>> +>> notmuch-deliver is replaced by notmuch insert +> +> Because of the way notmuch-insert(1) deals with failure it is +> entirely useless to me. From the manual page: +> +>> This command returns exit status 0 if the message was +>> successfully added to the mail directory, even if the message +>> could not be indexed and added to the notmuch database. +> +> This means that if the index is locked when a message is +> delivered it will not be tagged appropriately. The message will +> still be written to disk. However if you rely on the tags to +> find the message it effectively gets lost. +> +> notmuch-insert(1) should fail if it isn't able to successfully +> perform all of the following three tasks: +> +> - write the message to disk +> - index the message +> - tag the message +> +> It should return with a non-0 exit status and let its caller -- +> the MDA or another notmuch client -- handle the failure, since +> notmuch-insert(1) cannot make any guarantees by itself anyway. +> This would usually make an MDA retry delivering the message at a +> later time. + +I think this is a good reason not to remove notmuch-deliver until there +is at least an option to insert to fail in this case. A step in this +direction was made in +id:1374365254-13227-1-git-send-email-novalazy@gmail.com but this is not +a complete solution and is not in mainline anyway. + +Best wishes + +Mark + + +> +> Regards, +> Sebastian +> _______________________________________________ +> notmuch mailing list +> notmuch@notmuchmail.org +> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch + + -- 2.26.2