From 9ea679610bfd182ca639c90b64f13dac5345c87a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: David Edmondson Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:42:56 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Re: [PATCH] emacs: hello: display jump key next to saved search when available --- 91/2bd8688954fac4beeae52c00435d76f821fd9a | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 107 insertions(+) create mode 100644 91/2bd8688954fac4beeae52c00435d76f821fd9a diff --git a/91/2bd8688954fac4beeae52c00435d76f821fd9a b/91/2bd8688954fac4beeae52c00435d76f821fd9a new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3bc84cf4c --- /dev/null +++ b/91/2bd8688954fac4beeae52c00435d76f821fd9a @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A6B96DE14FD + for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:43:02 -0800 (PST) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.099 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[AWL=-0.032, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, + RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, + RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.652, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] + autolearn=disabled +Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id MhGlL682FLXy for ; + Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:43:00 -0800 (PST) +Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com (mail-wm0-f42.google.com + [74.125.82.42]) by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D79B6DE01D3 for + ; Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:43:00 -0800 (PST) +Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id p63so769684wmp.1 + for ; Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:43:00 -0800 (PST) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; + d=dme-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; + h=to:subject:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:mime-version + :content-type; bh=WxtyB4UHzhwyCCuClyjvzNSRS4vYMU5XwtFs7+vJTOY=; + b=UZviDIzMz3nVRdqMzaagwqVcerph91By0/A/a2IHs+2Pg9ZQjsPe9KVqWMOmx8HWDN + mrFWEYbDVQjCFbIhxbjPDJr2AuTL0sbL7O/DGhr/FhWv3EqjFVEM9E3UarlV7yEHoO+I + dRMwSYdEmEANaH2+BNbZYMr9ibb/WJVUPUMK/VvabTjm8+7o0BGgb2FLRiFjruHBXsi3 + +wxkf2+66LV2rj2cJRl/9zbnjUgYMYocaxzHN5FHWiOJ2ysRRHuTh9w6T1FDvF030ki4 + mfPRDRioR89sDA6pVJI4+S+Ov/CYatTCTf20gc1iDNXpFFYYrgC9oTTkBa33cQ901JuT + D6lg== +X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; + d=1e100.net; s=20130820; + h=x-gm-message-state:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:from:date + :message-id:mime-version:content-type; + bh=WxtyB4UHzhwyCCuClyjvzNSRS4vYMU5XwtFs7+vJTOY=; + b=k/t9gxL4HQOANcJwydZI9GQcDHpKtWZM5hyK+JC0C2ibLuU598lCCuJDfE2CKE3jZP + IAPLbzC6L6+Y7Imos9nTBJV4/zo6z/lm7+u90MUX/vRwlkTYNWvyWF84ehBfktvXwt2y + pLCfwZRR+9j5n2UYeU6lwBuyd3szeLG1RPWnamX2LukrzkE9Id5LmeOyRjoKt/psCVXS + 4qARr1gHoj8l5g+HNbNvOfhc/r1kp3czo+cUKpfchWcQSKoa0n/fPOVhyf1O6CvWourC + XaNtw4s8W/4RuA6GSY//jQ5wXgNjUiXLMzZLVcqC3kpF3ZDMddWT3hee5tiL1HfsgURH + Ki1A== +X-Gm-Message-State: + AG10YOQrTLf/zDH/iOuydF9FisE4EwWDozh9xGNWHhEuXoDc1JMQO0FBW961ZD+yloqs8w== +X-Received: by 10.28.86.10 with SMTP id k10mr7140184wmb.28.1455050578684; + Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:42:58 -0800 (PST) +Received: from disaster-area.hh.sledj.net + ([2a01:348:1a2:1:ea39:35ff:fe2c:a227]) + by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ka4sm36385945wjc.47.2016.02.09.12.42.57 + (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); + Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:42:57 -0800 (PST) +Received: from localhost (disaster-area.hh.sledj.net [local]) + by disaster-area.hh.sledj.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id d3bfc8bb; + Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:42:56 +0000 (UTC) +To: Jani Nikula , notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: [PATCH] emacs: hello: display jump key next to saved search when + available +In-Reply-To: <87y4aw3hy6.fsf@nikula.org> +References: <1450031043-24038-1-git-send-email-jani@nikula.org> + <87y4aw3hy6.fsf@nikula.org> +From: David Edmondson +Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:42:56 +0000 +Message-ID: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 20:43:02 -0000 + +On Sun, Feb 07 2016, Jani Nikula wrote: +> On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, David Edmondson wrote: +>> On Sun, Dec 13 2015, Jani Nikula wrote: +>>> Display the shortcut jump key next to the saved search name in notmuch +>>> hello, if one is defined for the saved search. +>> +>> I quite like the idea of this (and Mark's followup), but I wonder about +>> the utility. With notmuch-jump, as soon as I hit `j' a list of the +>> possible keystrokes and the corresponding search is presented, so I +>> don't need to refer to the list in the hello buffer to know what to do. +> +> Much of the point in this was to discuss how to make the UI, and the +> very capable features we have, more discoverable to new uses. Most +> people won't start by reading the documentation (which we don't even +> really have for notmuch-emacs). Keeping the UI uncluttered and clean at +> the same time is hard. +> +> Perhaps promoting the '?' key in my other patch is enough. Perhaps an +> alternative would be to highlight the 'j' key in "Saved searches: +> [edit]" somehow. + +I think the advertisement of '?' is sufficient. We don't provide an +on-screen guide in any of the other modes and (it appears to be emerging +that) emacs tools are providing help for complex sequences of operations +via secondary popups (like notmuch-jump or the magit equivalent). -- 2.26.2