From 981a1337c5d69b6ce825647d15132a7279e9bf31 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Felipe Contreras Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 03:09:39 +1800 Subject: [PATCH] Re: the future of notmuch-vim? --- 14/7df09bb7c89fa7cab39254c5a40122085f4feb | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 115 insertions(+) create mode 100644 14/7df09bb7c89fa7cab39254c5a40122085f4feb diff --git a/14/7df09bb7c89fa7cab39254c5a40122085f4feb b/14/7df09bb7c89fa7cab39254c5a40122085f4feb new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b7551a1f2 --- /dev/null +++ b/14/7df09bb7c89fa7cab39254c5a40122085f4feb @@ -0,0 +1,115 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63443431FAF + for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:34 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.799 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, + FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id q+KriN1krPrY for ; + Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:33 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com + [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF911431FAE + for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 02:15:33 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id x14so1416953ief.35 + for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; + h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references + :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; + bh=d9MpGSTz3on4WzPEZJHeekNSBHz1eU4OrwTG2HqclBo=; + b=gkJcU7zKMp3Vv/MXWLqElsZMKJWbydid8dvrA+fLGPDQLGSlgNzHKBViqBDqgnz+f5 + ipUyCnwjpRihhzqJEZnehdtXuCXyZEOo+xijc9fh7GP39WaS4bi3NtUf/NOF19wHUIiL + Xx5fo33W3alqK4rZureGulIHK5EfwidIjzeTZsie7z0habIxCETwsMk8Lv9yKccoEHRD + t4wtspK/d87MVpbJgpe/EmOZDRdj4mCzX1lM5KiYJ1OSO463sqiGMiiUpT6npjOrQ5Pp + oqQelP4tw7ezGzQ/LjfWBAlIh2vOiWh+u+rBo5c+l9pi4WQ6ltNkjgF3WmpscKg0wYS5 + diUQ== +X-Received: by 10.42.247.8 with SMTP id ma8mr493395icb.1.1364980532298; + Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:32 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from localhost (187-163-100-70.static.axtel.net. [187.163.100.70]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dy5sm3585214igc.1.2013.04.03.02.15.30 + (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); + Wed, 03 Apr 2013 02:15:31 -0700 (PDT) +Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 03:09:39 -0600 +From: Felipe Contreras +To: guyzmo , + Felipe Contreras +Message-ID: <515bf1d3cdb5b_79f845e181791@nysa.mail> +In-Reply-To: <20130403060158.GJ7702@vilya.m0g.net> +References: <871udhcmks.fsf@zancas.localnet> + <515b37a1821fc_146e1045e1094149@nysa.mail> + <20130403060158.GJ7702@vilya.m0g.net> +Subject: Re: the future of notmuch-vim? +Mime-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; + charset=utf-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit +Cc: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:15:34 -0000 + +guyzmo wrote: + +> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:55:13PM -0600, Felipe Contreras wrote: +> > Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't following the ml. +> +> same here +> +> > David Bremner wrote: +> > > - There are now several alternatives for people whose only motivation to +> > > use the vim frontend was dislike of emacs (alot and notmuch-mutt). +> > I did try the emacs frontend, and it was not working properly for me at the +> > time, and I believe I documented my issues. It was not just my dislike of emacs +> > that motivated me to write notmuch-vim-ruby. +> +> I'd say not liking emacs is not a good reason for using vim as a +> MUA. Vim is just a text editor, and nothing else. + +Vim is a pretty extensible text editor that works prectly fine as a MUA, in +fact, much better than any other MUA I've ever used. That is a good reason. + +> > > There are several alternative vim frontends floating around in (at +> > > least) ruby and python. I don't if they are better or worse +> > > functionality wise. +> > I'd say notmuch-vim-ruby is the best one, but of course I'm biased :) +> +> It may be nice and/or fun to use that kind of things in vim, but +> really, it's opposite to the philosophy of vim. + +The philosophy of vim is irrelevant, what is relevant is what you can do with +it, and you can use it as a perfectly good MUA. + +> I personnally prefer a thousand times to use mutt-kz, alot as MUA, and +> vim only for writing mails. + +What you prefer is irrelevant; it's relevant only for you, that's why it's +called a *preference*, the rest of us prefer different things. + +I've tried mutt-kz and alot, and I was utterly dissapointed by both. + +See how snappy and fast notmuch-vim-ruby is[1], alot is much worst in these +respects. + +[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGD7IbZmnIs + +-- +Felipe Contreras -- 2.26.2