From 643e5e83d4f36387c897c22ab14765f1260809a6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jameson Graef Rollins Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 19:30:22 +1700 Subject: [PATCH] Re: github --- 10/00b7ac410b3f491f5fe06ba8583c36cce3eb8d | 106 ++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 106 insertions(+) create mode 100644 10/00b7ac410b3f491f5fe06ba8583c36cce3eb8d diff --git a/10/00b7ac410b3f491f5fe06ba8583c36cce3eb8d b/10/00b7ac410b3f491f5fe06ba8583c36cce3eb8d new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8b8f7ebb4 --- /dev/null +++ b/10/00b7ac410b3f491f5fe06ba8583c36cce3eb8d @@ -0,0 +1,106 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908BE431FBD + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:36 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -2.3 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id KtLRqbeyIArv for ; + Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:29 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu (outgoing-mail.its.caltech.edu + [131.215.239.19]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2369431FAF + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from earth-doxen.imss.caltech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by earth-doxen-postvirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBA266E02D2 + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:26 -0700 (PDT) +X-Spam-Scanned: at Caltech-IMSS on earth-doxen by amavisd-new +Received: from finestructure.net (cpe-107-185-189-81.socal.res.rr.com + [107.185.189.81]) (Authenticated sender: jrollins) + by earth-doxen-submit (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A2E66E0259 + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:25 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by finestructure.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) + id 10F7F60102; Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:25 -0700 (PDT) +From: Jameson Graef Rollins +To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: github +References: <87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org> +User-Agent: Notmuch/0.17+198~gcd7c077 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.3.1 + (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) +Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:30:22 -0700 +Message-ID: <87mwemv29t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; + micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 02:30:36 -0000 + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: text/plain + +On Sun, Apr 27 2014, Jani Nikula wrote: +> To be honest, I am slightly concerned by the popularity of +> github. Despite being a hosting site primarily for open source, it *is* +> a proprietary platform. Source code hosting is plain git, but AFAIK all +> the rest (review process, issue tracking, and so on) is pretty much at +> the whim and mercy of the company running it. They make a change, you +> adapt. If you don't want to adapt, it's not easy to switch over to +> another service provider either if you've built your process around +> github. +> +> So even if the features of github amazed me (they don't), I would have +> pretty strong reservations about relying on them. + +There seems to have been a lot of discussion on the list recently about +github. I just want to express my very strong agreement with Jani's +sentiment above. A lot of us in the notmuch community moved to notmuch +because we didn't want our email controlled by a single service provider +(e.g. gmail). I don't want our development cycle controlled by github +(or any other proprietary SCM) for many of the same reasons. + +The current notmuch development process, that's been built up over the +last five years, is the most efficient and effective I've ever worked +with. It's really a well-oiled machine. Newcomers (always welcome!) +should give it a try before suggesting we abandon it. + +jamie. + +--=-=-= +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1 + +iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTcYO/AAoJEO00zqvie6q87RUP/R74/6R31rVt5P8RWhKw18Mv +hp97khTrWCi05lwxRdE/j7lfuwfaeJ9xu90Pp3aAyTFBeHipC1pioR4AGjSse1VD +X491XUOKG9NmPfeCmKFiKtIiOlCTn7rYUYb5Z/QPiaG7i7Dbsgrtnd33nNWSMJKd +o7MGGa7gTh+29b/MWOwME9xdC+HV3anl4GzUJok1ZEqUZakxwjsb+jSe6qin60NH +7cd8N54Hgo5hWYVe46CTOQVtSAwdoQk4JWZKqAPbFcMLtNGyud3mmARrx8OSpHcT +gfsN2eE+AtegE9mSuF7HCFGMSbdTUZZSjuOdCjWlG4Ynk+PqxmN3ef6rnC25nMII +953i/N0ykPZR+CSFz/VJxktoIOvzzvB8c03Vh29ar1SP31CcF/HWh9E+yU7k4Ct3 +O3VVWKFm4/Un1dCKt6474NuPHXszzoU3A805/zMyw1Z4LCdl2nqAx6VrVwVdiV1t +uNReDRQqEK45xOw98sVW9zerQ26p3XZrJS4IUiorLwSGvHDjkl+glg6Inhrig1GL +3LyR8/RFTPhT0DBxUfTqO6hnOT2xY6sq1v1+r9826kldYcm6bJM6Zb4TiGwQliE7 +PgTpAK7JbYHy8k1jrOKY6kCC5imq6AyPVLnszhl1yp3lqGThu3cCtfWHvdEpuzP8 +OU3YXtpfrKiPBFUNYW7t +=KcG6 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +--=-=-=-- -- 2.26.2