From: Olivier Schwander Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:42:14 +0000 (+0200) Subject: Re: Avoiding the "huge INBOX of death" X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=ce8c87119ab7db2a291a30f55b60d9a809ba144b;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Avoiding the "huge INBOX of death" --- diff --git a/45/0cf98454fee08ca9c16a9c3ae8458e08b58f6c b/45/0cf98454fee08ca9c16a9c3ae8458e08b58f6c new file mode 100644 index 000000000..027d99815 --- /dev/null +++ b/45/0cf98454fee08ca9c16a9c3ae8458e08b58f6c @@ -0,0 +1,122 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D356DE012F + for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:49:41 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.1 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] + autolearn=disabled +Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id Pzz7h-PNYiNE for ; + Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:49:32 -0700 (PDT) +X-Greylist: delayed 512 seconds by postgrey-1.35 at arlo; + Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:49:32 PDT +Received: from vitrine.ns305973.chezlefab.net (chezlefab.net [91.121.242.52]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3ED6DE015B + for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:49:32 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by vitrine.ns305973.chezlefab.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) + id 0BA401030E6; Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:42:14 +0200 (CEST) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=chadok.info; s=mail; + t=1468928535; bh=eQ1AYPFYGICrt8Zxspwv7dwKo8voQJtHK1dPpOgZMHA=; + h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; + b=KDaDDke+zZy2tZ+KtExiNGZr/sKvFJNnq18r0dHY7PGZBTawweIguc34zwKjm3zKu + jE/kPlN7b9uI+fitgzLvMT9NGsB+wwsRTZ/fbDtbie1f3E4jN/fBE4XflruV+QwGs0 + Y9ZqObjTW0cpkBECGrNF8ll3XGzW82gV41zi54CM= +Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:42:14 +0200 +From: Olivier Schwander +To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: Avoiding the "huge INBOX of death" +Message-ID: <20160719114214.cp3l7crruy2y4l4h@vitrine> +References: <20160719094205.qmf5sjnja6crt5t3@gotlib> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 +Content-Disposition: inline +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +In-Reply-To: <20160719094205.qmf5sjnja6crt5t3@gotlib> +User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.0.1 (2016-04-01) +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 11:49:41 -0000 + +Le 19 Jul 2016 11:42, Raphaël Fournier-S'niehotta a écrit: +> Hello fellow notmuchers, +> +> I am a longtime "classic" mutt user, willing to switch to a notmuch-based +> solution (probably neomutt). However, as far as I understand, I will have to +> deal with a "huge INBOX of death", as put by Anarcat in a recent blog post [1], +> that when all emails remain in a single maildir, which may the become very +> large. +> +> I would like to avoid this, for quota reasons on my work imap server first, and +> also because I sometimes have to use webmail access, with poor searching +> capabilities. +> +> Thus, I think I need to have my emails sorted into maildir folders according to +> the notmuch tags. Namely, emails with the "inbox" tag should stay in the INBOX +> maildir, those with "archive" should be moved to Archives (all synchronized with +> the server). As a bonus, it would be great to have a few more features, like +> "mails in Archives older than 6 months are moved to Archives/" (kept +> locally and not stored on the server). +> +> As far as I understand, "afew" and its MailMover feature could be useful for my +> case, but it does not seem currently maintained (plus, very few mentions of it +> on the notmuch archives) and Michael Turquette said it's buggy [2], so I would +> like more feedback to be sure before letting it mess with my maildir. +> +> Another tool that could be useful is the "maildir-notmuch-sync" script written +> by Ethan Schoonover and adapted by Michael Turquette [3]. However, it seems +> dedicated to handling the synchronization of Gmail labels, not a generic imap +> server hierarchy. +> +> Perhaps there is another solution to deal with this in a notmuch-based setup, I +> would very much like any of your feedback. +> +> [1]: https://anarc.at/blog/2016-05-12-email-setup/ +> [2]: http://deferred.io/2016/01/17/state-of-the-dotfiles.html +> [3]: http://deferred.io/2016/01/18/notmuch-tags-gmail-labels-bidirectional-sync.html + +You could use fdm [1] to store messages into a folder hierarchy based on +the date in the messages. In the past, I used something like that to +periodically move messages in my inbox to sub-folder with the year: + +account "archives" disabled maildirs { + "${mailpath}INBOX" +} +action "archive" maildir "${mailpath}%[maildir]/%[mail_year]" +match account "archives" { + match age > 6 months action "archive" + match all action keep +} + +Nowadays, I use a custom script [2] to mirror some notmuch queries to +maildirs (ran periodically in my crontab), such like: + +notmuch-imap.sh ~/Maildir/ NOT tag:archive AND NOT tag:killed AND NOT tag:spam AND tag:inbox +notmuch-imap.sh ~/Maildir/.todo NOT tag:archive AND NOT tag:killed AND NOT tag:spam AND tag:todo + +Both solutions works server-side, since I control my own mail server but +it may probably used in an offlineimap hook. + +Best, + +Olivier + +[1]: https://github.com/nicm/fdm +[2]: https://chadok.info/~oschwand/poubelle/e53f1d9ac30909fd17ca98f4160375bbc9a6aca5/notmuch-imap.sh.html +