From: Wael M. Nasreddine Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 20:14:51 +0000 (+1700) Subject: Re: Github? 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Nasreddine" +Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 13:14:51 -0700 +Message-ID: + +Subject: Re: Github? +To: guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net, notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2db146972ec04f8e92304 +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 20:15:21 -0000 + +--001a11c2db146972ec04f8e92304 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine +wrote: + +> Hi everyone, +> +> I didn't see the previous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It +> looks like you guys have your hands full and everything setup the way you +> like it, so here's what I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you, +> otherwise I'll just remove everything): +> +> - Revert my changes (except for the CI) +> - Set a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting +> to fork. +> - Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki +> - Add a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page +> - Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and maybe +> automate it later. +> + +Can you guys at least consider splitting contrib/ and bindings/ into their +own repo? It will make it easier for people to use the go bindings (for +example) or to include the vim plugin as a submodule (or Vundle bundle). + + +> +> For the automatic pusher, I'll have to skip the README changes. +> +> Wael +> +> +> On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo wrote: +> +>> Hi, +>> +>> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote: +>> > On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula +>> wrote: +>> > > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine +>> wrote: +>> [...] +>> > >> Any thoughts on moving to Github? +>> > > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org +>> > Exactly! +>> +>> it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-) +>> +>> > >> I took the liberty of making the first move by +>> > >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and +>> binding/ +>> > >> into their own repository (conserving all their history). +>> > > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch +>> > > repository. +>> > Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort +>> > of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece +>> > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback, +>> > especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is +>> > somewhat high-handed. +>> +>> well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distributed, I see +>> no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well as on +>> gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly: +>> +>> *mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository* +>> +>> and that the README.md starts by giving where the official repo is, +>> and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull +>> requests. A good thing would be to have it automatically kept in sync +>> with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create +>> a post-receive hook on the principal repository. +>> +>> As a nice side effect of doing this, we'll stop having users +>> complain about "not being on github"... Even though they should +>> understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being able to +>> track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github. +>> +>> my 2 cents, +>> +>> -- +>> Guyzmo +>> _______________________________________________ +>> notmuch mailing list +>> notmuch@notmuchmail.org +>> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch +>> +> + + +-- +Wael Nasreddine | Software Engineer | wael.nasreddine@gmail.com | (650) +735-1773 + +--001a11c2db146972ec04f8e92304 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
On T= +hu, May 8, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gma= +il.com> wrote:
+ +
Hi everyone,

I didn't see the previ= +ous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys hav= +e your hands full and everything setup the way you like it, so here's w= +hat I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you, otherwise I'll= + just remove everything):
+ +

- Revert my changes (except for the CI)
- Set= + a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork= +.
- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki
- Add = +a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page
+ +
- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and ma= +ybe automate it later.

Can you guys at least consider splitting contrib/ and bi= +ndings/ into their own repo? It will make it easier for people to use the g= +o bindings (for example) or to include the vim plugin as a submodule (or Vu= +ndle bundle).
+ +
=C2=A0

For the automatic pus= +her, I'll have to skip the README changes.
+ +

= +Wael


On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo <guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.n= +et> wrote:
+ +
Hi,
+
+On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:
+> On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:
+> > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com> wr= +ote:
+[...]
+> >> Any thoughts on moving to Github?
+> > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org
+> Exactly!
+
+it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-)
+
+> >> I took the liberty of making the first move by
+> >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and binding/= +
+> >> into their own repository (conserving all their history).
+> > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch<= +br> +> > repository.
+> Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort
+> of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece +> of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,
+> especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is
+> somewhat high-handed.
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distribu= +ted, =C2=A0I see
+no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well =C2= +=A0as on
+gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:
+
+*mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repositor= +y*
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and that the README.md starts by giving where the official = +=C2=A0repo is,
+and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull +requests. A good thing would be to have it =C2=A0automatically =C2=A0kept = +=C2=A0in sync
+with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create +a post-receive hook on the principal repository.
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As a nice =C2=A0side =C2=A0effect =C2=A0of =C2=A0doing =C2=A0= +this, =C2=A0we'll =C2=A0stop =C2=A0having users
+complain =C2=A0about =C2=A0"not =C2=A0being =C2=A0on =C2=A0github"= +;... =C2=A0Even =C2=A0though =C2=A0they =C2=A0should
+understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being =C2=A0able = +to
+track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.
+
+my 2 cents,
+
+--
+Guyzmo
+_______________________________________________
+notmuch mailing list
+notmuch@notmuc= +hmail.org
+http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch
+



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+ + + +
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