From: David Edmondson Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:53:44 +0000 (+0100) Subject: Re: using the fringe to indicate good signatures X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=9fc5ea5072f416c380a6cc2bdfe206fbe78e3dc9;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: using the fringe to indicate good signatures --- diff --git a/66/35d9411fe8adfaf015408b59c20e6362f0a726 b/66/35d9411fe8adfaf015408b59c20e6362f0a726 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4da72e293 --- /dev/null +++ b/66/35d9411fe8adfaf015408b59c20e6362f0a726 @@ -0,0 +1,101 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5740B6DE0B7C + for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 02:53:52 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: 0.581 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.581 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.648, + RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, + RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.652, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] + autolearn=disabled +Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id ke7gixUzKf37 for ; + Tue, 8 Sep 2015 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail-wi0-f182.google.com (mail-wi0-f182.google.com + [209.85.212.182]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 643986DE0B22 + for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by wicfx3 with SMTP id fx3so108415188wic.0 + for ; Tue, 08 Sep 2015 02:53:47 -0700 (PDT) +X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; + d=1e100.net; s=20130820; + h=x-gm-message-state:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent + :from:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; + bh=bKmEE8IOBS2dt0ix0MaCitI3oMebFZ8npZk7HHrhzCQ=; + b=aEUoo9CqED9pKWAJa9Lb1T+mc+Bb3zfcOyZ+XW9up6JjLQe4kBFT7/WpaoK7+mBW2Y + 9FOjPeWPh2zvdShsP3k+IMQXPpbNIQOesH+6Oajh4PKxci9GOAyxJIEp9IxWiYs4+FDK + /9ZFNyO+x3h+u/L4F0zsmTrbLv8kJXakiTDke443GCtyQrUpvC9dOpL6kxOWfsIlsySP + cKECcxMCjYS0lPzIzCqLRH65nedj7S0xPHh+hNELCcj07KdMjvMAeIutFhwOVcDi2PML + WuR6q6l5Owd/PnQ5eFWnipHKXmTV/XaX+7qWHkREbBrsNg+I9Eni2g7ZHDGcESlawVTM + SrTA== +X-Gm-Message-State: + ALoCoQl777zLQADAH2hlQBUL0fHSgkM2vicQR7Xs+veelh2eT5joiImYJK/SmkPbZwVVSuobYzV1 +X-Received: by 10.180.8.3 with SMTP id n3mr19180540wia.41.1441706027376; + Tue, 08 Sep 2015 02:53:47 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from disaster-area.hh.sledj.net + ([2a01:348:1a2:1:ea39:35ff:fe2c:a227]) + by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id lf10sm3887251wjb.23.2015.09.08.02.53.45 + (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); + Tue, 08 Sep 2015 02:53:45 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from localhost (30000@localhost [local]); + by localhost (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 25477a2a; + Tue, 8 Sep 2015 09:53:44 +0000 (UTC) +To: Daniel Kahn Gillmor , notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: using the fringe to indicate good signatures +In-Reply-To: <87twr5jtqy.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> +References: + <87d1xtn8s8.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> + + <87twr5jtqy.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> +User-Agent: none +From: David Edmondson +Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 10:53:44 +0100 +Message-ID: +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 09:53:52 -0000 + +On Tue, Sep 08 2015, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: +>> More seriously, we could use the indentation space for a similar +>> indicator, which would allow us some room at an appropriate depth for +>> each message (but not each part (in the default configuration)). +> +> hm, but couldn't the indentation space be spoofed by a well-crafted +> message? that is: a non-indented message will consume space up to (but +> not including) the fringe. so a well-crafted message could be made to +> *look* like an indented message, including whatever is comparable to the +> chrome/UI elements we would use for an actual signed message. + +Yes, I guess that is possible at some level. + +The fringe is a bitmap - we could use the leftmost vertical line of it +for the outermost component, next line for the next component, ... + +Or perhaps use images: + - all levels of the message at this line are "good", + - some of the levels of the message at this line are "good". + +Or maybe display a QR code in the fringe, and you point your phone at it +to find out what is going on? + +> I think it is also acceptable to just punt at some level -- we can say +> "notmuch-emacs will indicate the outermost signed message part in the +> fringe; it will not indicate nested signed messages in the fringe". +> this is still an improvement from the status quo.