From: Felipe Contreras Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 03:13:57 +0000 (+1900) Subject: Re: github X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=97ba7b96356c778ea42b99d5fc29757622708963;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: github --- diff --git a/95/8640578d3d92c856777b94043df56667e0bf8c b/95/8640578d3d92c856777b94043df56667e0bf8c new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ad0f27b90 --- /dev/null +++ b/95/8640578d3d92c856777b94043df56667e0bf8c @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D109431FBD + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:14:08 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.799 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, + FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id 1p5WexbjTHEd for ; + Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:58 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com + [209.85.216.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC7C9431FAF + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:58 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w8so7873103qac.19 + for ; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; + h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to + :cc:content-type; + bh=1gnrCv9mZvsf0ZjK1zLAnIU5P+guJerclnu8n7fCs6g=; + b=l+eR9sJPm2SkmL1yRKm3u6aevP7HqS7977ZaiNJ7OUg/lofJcUTAvu4Gfdrk6BY3iB + QQhsD0p8ZAv3wAMurXqLkBmLfe+5gf8GCWG4LyKLz/lgVeRiSXh+tt5wr7GjeXzaWU33 + qfShj57vqNogYNLWvKGD2iUWONc8YyTjUSDz6qKqiJzfSBTJ5vCUqtSdGiHu8/PU3D/N + z7GFVCf8+nFvt97dWlJzNzKd2jnM/nrI2cSezZUS9CdEHYhwzimapqPrcctdLzBlmcvX + MVBCDKhQw1KFfOUS98UdIJApMKYAQN+1gLag45wIFFJZut0ftjjMMW351OWFDeR/epE2 + q21Q== +MIME-Version: 1.0 +X-Received: by 10.224.55.83 with SMTP id t19mr41331571qag.42.1399950837169; + Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by 10.140.19.242 with HTTP; Mon, 12 May 2014 20:13:57 -0700 (PDT) +In-Reply-To: <87mwemv29t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> +References: <87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org> + <87mwemv29t.fsf@servo.finestructure.net> +Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 22:13:57 -0500 +Message-ID: + +Subject: Re: github +From: Felipe Contreras +To: Jameson Graef Rollins +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +Cc: "notmuch@notmuchmail.org" +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 03:14:08 -0000 + +On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:30 PM, Jameson Graef Rollins + wrote: +> On Sun, Apr 27 2014, Jani Nikula wrote: +>> To be honest, I am slightly concerned by the popularity of +>> github. Despite being a hosting site primarily for open source, it *is* +>> a proprietary platform. Source code hosting is plain git, but AFAIK all +>> the rest (review process, issue tracking, and so on) is pretty much at +>> the whim and mercy of the company running it. They make a change, you +>> adapt. If you don't want to adapt, it's not easy to switch over to +>> another service provider either if you've built your process around +>> github. +>> +>> So even if the features of github amazed me (they don't), I would have +>> pretty strong reservations about relying on them. +> +> There seems to have been a lot of discussion on the list recently about +> github. I just want to express my very strong agreement with Jani's +> sentiment above. A lot of us in the notmuch community moved to notmuch +> because we didn't want our email controlled by a single service provider +> (e.g. gmail). I don't want our development cycle controlled by github +> (or any other proprietary SCM) for many of the same reasons. + +How would our development cycle be controlled by GitHub? + +The whole point of a distributed VCS is that there isn't a single +central repository you rely on. + +-- +Felipe Contreras