From: Sebastian Schwarz Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 14:53:44 +0000 (+0200) Subject: Re: proposal to remove contrib/notmuch-vim and contrib/notmuch-deliver X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=9476e951e1f0a0e9c471c0a9fd40aab4f69b68ff;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: proposal to remove contrib/notmuch-vim and contrib/notmuch-deliver --- diff --git a/f4/bdf43fc070a417840e467edb2d91a4c6d18ba5 b/f4/bdf43fc070a417840e467edb2d91a4c6d18ba5 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0b5924502 --- /dev/null +++ b/f4/bdf43fc070a417840e467edb2d91a4c6d18ba5 @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273DC429E34 + for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 07:54:00 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.799 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, + FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id EH94IdXveUO9 for ; + Wed, 4 Sep 2013 07:53:53 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com (mail-ea0-f173.google.com + [209.85.215.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DC90429E32 + for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 07:53:52 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id g10so244085eak.18 + for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; + h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version + :content-type; bh=9cE+Yqc1TndHv21Yhup9mPeWZSmIFqzwpEn4Aejrq1Q=; + b=XCUt70g2zYEnFEFH6krv/Wex/Yd3kElsvIbBqmpgc6aW/XYk3nnOqC6Roh8S+RSGGB + ErDwcIW9PzzDhrmeOygdCJ80/WUh2DXpGojpwsNnw9Co59T1Kzhp3q7aOj+qoduOx3aM + IOLWf2VIhHAhc83AE4auTpO5n84UF8esXfHY+m0s22lty1W0Uv0WSdTaxA6dMxIdnxh7 + jNMtsBWyWSmc7AtUWnMN8Fc2twS1z4LqT7mqBf0gV21iHmXN9nOKur/QdiVqpmR15X92 + Ie5NahEhsNE/66ZBp+y91z63qZLBFG62r5mJq+jfFTXIK4OFEi3Ygkejjkn9eQ3MTTHH + d+lw== +X-Received: by 10.14.89.72 with SMTP id b48mr5395592eef.43.1378306430018; + Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from localhost (f049134146.adsl.alicedsl.de. [78.49.134.146]) + by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a1sm40662876eem.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 + (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); + Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:53:49 -0700 (PDT) +From: Sebastian Schwarz +To: notmuch mailing list +Subject: Re: proposal to remove contrib/notmuch-vim and + contrib/notmuch-deliver +In-Reply-To: <87a9jsriii.fsf@zancas.localnet> +References: <87ioygrkhj.fsf@zancas.localnet> + + <87a9jsriii.fsf@zancas.localnet> +Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:53:44 +0200 +Message-ID: + <874na0y6x3.fsf@pineapple.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> +MIME-Version: 1.0 +Content-Type: text/plain +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 14:54:00 -0000 + +Hello, + +On 2013-04-09, David Bremner wrote: +> David Belohrad writes: +> +>> is actually someone using notmuch deliver? + +I am using notmuch-deliver with maildrop. This allows me to +filter and tag based on any header field of the message. + +>> [...] +> +> notmuch-deliver is replaced by notmuch insert + +Because of the way notmuch-insert(1) deals with failure it is +entirely useless to me. From the manual page: + +> This command returns exit status 0 if the message was +> successfully added to the mail directory, even if the message +> could not be indexed and added to the notmuch database. + +This means that if the index is locked when a message is +delivered it will not be tagged appropriately. The message will +still be written to disk. However if you rely on the tags to +find the message it effectively gets lost. + +notmuch-insert(1) should fail if it isn't able to successfully +perform all of the following three tasks: + +- write the message to disk +- index the message +- tag the message + +It should return with a non-0 exit status and let its caller -- +the MDA or another notmuch client -- handle the failure, since +notmuch-insert(1) cannot make any guarantees by itself anyway. +This would usually make an MDA retry delivering the message at a +later time. + +Regards, +Sebastian