From: Wael Nasreddine Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 19:54:38 +0000 (+0000) Subject: Re: Github? X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=8e8f28b953df0aa4b16055012c766b69a05bcfcf;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Github? --- diff --git a/dc/d765084820280063761fa6281135bf60fb04c9 b/dc/d765084820280063761fa6281135bf60fb04c9 new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d0f6d89af --- /dev/null +++ b/dc/d765084820280063761fa6281135bf60fb04c9 @@ -0,0 +1,229 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F044431FAE + for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at olra.theworths.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: -0.798 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.798 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, + FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] + autolearn=disabled +Received: from olra.theworths.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (olra.theworths.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id I+7QxuR4wcFc for ; + Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com + [209.85.214.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by olra.theworths.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 699D4431FC0 + for ; Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:39 -0700 (PDT) +Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wn1so3667409obc.13 + for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 12:54:39 -0700 (PDT) +DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; + h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to + :content-type; bh=SitBJyri+lQPMgRNH7xBG3poJNes9s51R4aq10o7MFY=; + b=lIfl1SAVkpGf02lp4EoU+qhSUgvmoOOVFpYte/Ckr6KjS680QLPKsxowFWCY3oxMM9 + iiLyaejMexCNAVx70KO809wmQXvtue0eEfApfSgfPgO6hZWXKyyYAoT5DbuOsLteV91f + SHhD30CROlw9tjRO9rltq7/moB8zcckrVqhuVgEnx/VgT6/+AFbcB8EUHaV4v8Ci8u// + cTfUktn6AgeuycEZfuuoIBgo5el0bQLUXZ+2xxCzWo8oybEZ5S/CiedI2rpkcIGCWbMt + tTKl1S1BqIzmf0yJkFMJQBruLaDWiiDuoJ9uRLhychHUZzwxXKwakHknn4Y6WStGYEiP + 0QFQ== +X-Received: by 10.182.29.225 with SMTP id n1mr8081943obh.2.1399578878796; Thu, + 08 May 2014 12:54:38 -0700 (PDT) +MIME-Version: 1.0 +References: + + <87iopgkaiz.fsf@nikula.org> + <20140508101325.GC23124@vilya.m0g.net> +From: Wael Nasreddine +Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 19:54:38 +0000 +Message-ID: + +Subject: Re: Github? +To: guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net, notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 19:54:50 -0000 + +--001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +Hi everyone, + +I didn't see the previous email about it, thank you Jani for the link. It +looks like you guys have your hands full and everything setup the way you +like it, so here's what I'll do myself (if it's acceptable with you, +otherwise I'll just remove everything): + +- Revert my changes (except for the CI) +- Set a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to +fork. +- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki +- Add a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page +- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and maybe +automate it later. + +For the automatic pusher, I'll have to skip the README changes. + +Wael + +On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo wrote: + +> Hi, +> +> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote: +> > On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula wrote: +> > > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine +> wrote: +> [...] +> > >> Any thoughts on moving to Github? +> > > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org +> > Exactly! +> +> it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-) +> +> > >> I took the liberty of making the first move by +> > >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and +> binding/ +> > >> into their own repository (conserving all their history). +> > > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch +> > > repository. +> > Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort +> > of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece +> > of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback, +> > especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is +> > somewhat high-handed. +> +> well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distributed, I see +> no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well as on +> gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly: +> +> *mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository* +> +> and that the README.md starts by giving where the official repo is, +> and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull +> requests. A good thing would be to have it automatically kept in sync +> with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create +> a post-receive hook on the principal repository. +> +> As a nice side effect of doing this, we'll stop having users +> complain about "not being on github"... Even though they should +> understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being able to +> track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github. +> +> my 2 cents, +> +> -- +> Guyzmo +> _______________________________________________ +> notmuch mailing list +> notmuch@notmuchmail.org +> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch +> + +--001a11c2da9ce9258c04f8e8d915 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +Hi everyone,

I didn't see the previous email about i= +t, thank you Jani for the link. It looks like you guys have your hands full= + and everything setup the way you like it, so here's what I'll do m= +yself (if it's acceptable with you, otherwise I'll just remove ever= +ything):
+

- Revert my changes (except for the CI)
- Set= + a cron job to update the mirror hourly for the Github user wanting to fork= +.
- Remove the Issues, Pull Request and the Wiki
- Add = +a "mirror of .." to the description on top of the page
+
- Manually update the contrib/ bindings/ as they change in here and ma= +ybe automate it later.

For the automatic pusher, I= +'ll have to skip the README changes.

Wael
+
On Thu May 08 2014 at 3:16:29 AM, Guyzmo <guyzmo+notmuch@m0g.net> wrote:
+Hi,
+
+On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Eric wrote:
+> On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:13:56 +0200, Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org> wrote:
+> > On Thu, 08 May 2014, Wael Nasreddine <wael.nasreddine@gmail.com> wr= +ote:
+[...]
+> >> Any thoughts on moving to Github?
+> > http://mid.gmane.org/87wqea7c37.fsf@nikula.org
+> Exactly!
+
+it feels like there's an echo in the room ;-)
+
+> >> I took the liberty of making the first move by
+> >> creating https://github.com/notmuch and splitting the contrib/ and binding/= +
+> >> into their own repository (conserving all their history).
+> > I am concerned people will mistake that for the official notmuch<= +br> +> > repository.
+> Me too! I am just a (happy) user here, but I do know that the sort
+> of confusion that might arise can work against acceptance of a piece +> of software. I think that doing this without waiting for feedback,
+> especially from the people who do most of the work on notmuch, is
+> somewhat high-handed.
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 well, because of git's fundamental feature to be distribu= +ted, =C2=A0I see
+no reason why notmuch couldn't have a *mirror* on github, as well =C2= +=A0as on
+gitorious or bitbucket. As long as the description says explicitly:
+
+*mirror of the http://git.notmuchmail.org/git/notmuch repository*
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 and that the README.md starts by giving where the official = +=C2=A0repo is,
+and explains how to submit patches. And *always* refuse to merge in pull +requests. A good thing would be to have it =C2=A0automatically =C2=A0kept = +=C2=A0in sync
+with the original repository, and a nice way to do it would be to create +a post-receive hook on the principal repository.
+
+=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As a nice =C2=A0side =C2=A0effect =C2=A0of =C2=A0doing =C2=A0= +this, =C2=A0we'll =C2=A0stop =C2=A0having users
+complain =C2=A0about =C2=A0"not =C2=A0being =C2=A0on =C2=A0github"= +;... =C2=A0Even =C2=A0though =C2=A0they =C2=A0should
+understand that this is github that has a design flaw not being =C2=A0able = +to
+track forks coming from outside of github, or getting out of github.
+
+my 2 cents,
+
+--
+Guyzmo
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