From: Jeremy Nickurak Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:15:38 +0000 (+1800) Subject: Re: Feature suggestion. Indexing encrypted mail? X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=8ab38da9082bd151510bbeca25a8bec8e7b0d40e;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Feature suggestion. 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Indexing encrypted mail? +From: Jeremy Nickurak +To: Jameson Graef Rollins +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c266c4eac32c04f6798718 +Cc: Notmuch Mailing List , + Daniel Kahn Gillmor , + Daniel Kahn Gillmor +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:15:47 -0000 + +--001a11c266c4eac32c04f6798718 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 + +Nonetheess, if you can tell from the index that a given message contains +the words "hotel" "wine" "wife" "secret" and "rendezvous", you can infer a +*lot* about the contents of encrypted contents of the message. + + +On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Jameson Graef Rollins < +jrollins@finestructure.net> wrote: + +> On Mon, Apr 07 2014, john.wyzer@gmx.de wrote: +> >> confess i haven't been following closely), it wouldn't be much extra +> >> effort for someone to implement a filter that strips encryption from the +> >> message. (this might still have the problem mentioned above about also +> >> stripping PGP/MIME signatures, but the signatures and the decrypted +> >> message itself would remain intact so they could be shown directly by +> >> notmuch show without trouble). +> > +> > I don't understand that. :-( +> > This sounds as if the view of the message is not generated from the +> > mail storage. Isn't the purpose of the index to find the appropriate +> > message file and everything else is generated from that file? +> +> I think that's exactly what Daniel is saying: what's viewed comes from +> the message directly, and not from the db. +> +> jamie. +> +> _______________________________________________ +> notmuch mailing list +> notmuch@notmuchmail.org +> http://notmuchmail.org/mailman/listinfo/notmuch +> +> + +--001a11c266c4eac32c04f6798718 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable + +
Nonetheess, if you can tell from the index that a given me= +ssage contains the words "hotel" "wine" "wife"= +; "secret" and "rendezvous", you can infer a *lot* abou= +t the contents of encrypted contents of the message.
+


On Mon, Apr 7= +, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.= +net> wrote:
+
On Mon, Apr 07 2014, john.wyzer@gmx.de wrote:
+>> confess i haven't been following closely), it wouldn't be = +much extra
+>> effort for someone to implement a filter that strips encryption fr= +om the
+>> message. =C2=A0(this might still have the problem mentioned above = +about also
+>> stripping PGP/MIME signatures, but the signatures and the decrypte= +d
+>> message itself would remain intact so they could be shown directly= + by
+>> notmuch show without trouble).
+>
+> I don't understand that. :-(
+> This sounds as if the view of the message is not generated from the +> mail storage. Isn't the purpose of the index to find the appropria= +te
+> message file and everything else is generated from that file?
+
+
I think that's exactly what Daniel is saying: what's viewed c= +omes from
+the message directly, and not from the db.
+
+jamie.
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