From: Johnny Utahh Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 19:32:50 +0000 (+1900) Subject: Re: Learning Notmuch X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=17f2a83502227eb1b054a1f8434914bfcb977d4a;p=notmuch-archives.git Re: Learning Notmuch --- diff --git a/65/9b5723978bdb5a08d6f9937a5261d0bf1fce8d b/65/9b5723978bdb5a08d6f9937a5261d0bf1fce8d new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c4fb35068 --- /dev/null +++ b/65/9b5723978bdb5a08d6f9937a5261d0bf1fce8d @@ -0,0 +1,259 @@ +Return-Path: +X-Original-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Delivered-To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF3D6DE1617 + for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:32:57 -0700 (PDT) +X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cworth.org +X-Spam-Flag: NO +X-Spam-Score: 0.03 +X-Spam-Level: +X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.03 tagged_above=-999 required=5 + tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=0.73, + RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled +Received: from arlo.cworth.org ([127.0.0.1]) + by localhost (arlo.cworth.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) + with ESMTP id Z3051gB4IBJz for ; + Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) + by arlo.cworth.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A953E6DE1534 + for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT) +Received: from [192.168.1.134] (unknown [70.194.124.2]) + (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) + (No client certificate requested) + by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6472822E1F4; + Sat, 6 Jun 2015 15:32:52 -0400 (EDT) +Message-ID: <55734AE2.1070304@johnnyutahh.com> +Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:32:50 -0500 +From: Johnny Utahh +User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; + rv:17.0) Gecko/20131118 Thunderbird/17.0.11 +MIME-Version: 1.0 +To: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +Subject: Re: Learning Notmuch +References: <557250AC.40803@johnnyutahh.com> <87twuljmhh.fsf@nikula.org> +In-Reply-To: <87twuljmhh.fsf@nikula.org> +Content-Type: multipart/alternative; + boundary="------------010603040806050106090905" +X-BeenThere: notmuch@notmuchmail.org +X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 +Precedence: list +List-Id: "Use and development of the notmuch mail system." + +List-Unsubscribe: , + +List-Archive: +List-Post: +List-Help: +List-Subscribe: , + +X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 19:32:57 -0000 + +This is a multi-part message in MIME format. +--------------010603040806050106090905 +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit + +On 6/6/15, 2:59 AM, Jani Nikula wrote: +> You're probably better off sending your specific questions to the +> list, so we can quote them in our replies and discuss them. + +Certainly. Does the following work? (They're questions, each followed by +corresponding section weblinks from the document's Table of Contents, +for context/details.) Should I instead send each question as a separate +email? + +Which MUA(s) is (are) best for me? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#MUA_choice + +Support old-style IMAP-folder paradigm? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#old_style_imap_folder_paradigm + + +Support IMAP-account separation? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#imap_account_separation + +Will tags stick with moved messages? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#moving-msgs-after-applying-tags + + +Hot to perform MUA folder-based searching with name auto-completion? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#folder_based_searching + +How to support "IMAP folders as tags"? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#IMAP_folders_as_tags + +How to auto-detect need for IMAP resync? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#auto-detect-if-imap-resync-needed + + +Sync metadata across machines? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#sync_notmuch_metadata_across_machines + + +Sync Notmuch tags with maildir flags? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#sync-notmuch-tags-with-maildir-flags + + +How to manage messages with attachments? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#managing-message-attachments + + +How to support offline editing - postponing drafts? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#offline-editing-postponing-drafts + + +How to write HTML-formatted messages? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#writing-html-formatted-messages + + +How to forward messages with attachments? +https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#forwarding_msgs_w_attachments + + +> IMO the notion of "tag-based email" is misleading to begin with. I +> would call both notmuch and mu *search* based email tools. Tagging is +> just one small part of it. + +Got it. I've retitled the doc. + + +> The last time I checked, the main differences between notmuch and mu +> were in threading, community, and spinoff tools. I think the handling of +> threads is superior in notmuch (YMMV), and this is particularly visible +> in the emacs interfaces. The downside of that is slower +> indexing. Notmuch has a wider developer community while mu is mostly a +> one man show. Notmuch has more people to keep the project moving, but +> one person might provide a more unified UI experience. Finally, I think +> there are more tools and MUAs written around notmuch, partly due to the +> language bindings to the library. + +Thanks, quite helpful. + +Johnny +-- +// + +--------------010603040806050106090905 +Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit + + + + + + +
+
On 6/6/15, 2:59 AM, Jani + Nikula wrote:
+
You're probably + better off sending your specific questions to the list, so we + can quote them in our replies and discuss them.
+
+
+ Certainly. Does the following work? (They're questions, each + followed by corresponding section weblinks from the document's + Table of Contents, for context/details.) Should I instead send + each question as a separate email?
+
+ Which MUA(s) is (are) best for me?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#MUA_choice +
+
+ Support old-style IMAP-folder paradigm?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#old_style_imap_folder_paradigm +
+
+ Support IMAP-account separation?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#imap_account_separation +
+
+ Will tags stick with moved messages?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#moving-msgs-after-applying-tags +
+
+ Hot to perform MUA folder-based searching with name + auto-completion?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#folder_based_searching +
+
+ How to support "IMAP folders as tags"?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#IMAP_folders_as_tags +
+
+ How to auto-detect need for IMAP resync?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#auto-detect-if-imap-resync-needed +
+
+ Sync metadata across machines?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#sync_notmuch_metadata_across_machines +
+
+ Sync Notmuch tags with maildir flags?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#sync-notmuch-tags-with-maildir-flags +
+
+ How to manage messages with attachments?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#managing-message-attachments +
+
+ How to support offline editing - postponing drafts?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#offline-editing-postponing-drafts +
+
+ How to write HTML-formatted messages?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#writing-html-formatted-messages +
+
+ How to forward messages with attachments?
+ https://github.com/johnnyutahh/search-based-email#forwarding_msgs_w_attachments +
+
+

+
IMO the notion + of "tag-based email" is misleading to begin with. I would call + both notmuch and mu *search* based email tools. + Tagging is just one small part of it.
+
+
+ Got it. I've retitled the doc.
+
+
+
+ 
The last time I checked, the main differences between notmuch and mu
+were in threading, community, and spinoff tools. I think the handling of
+threads is superior in notmuch (YMMV), and this is particularly visible
+in the emacs interfaces. The downside of that is slower
+indexing. Notmuch has a wider developer community while mu is mostly a
+one man show. Notmuch has more people to keep the project moving, but
+one person might provide a more unified UI experience. Finally, I think
+there are more tools and MUAs written around notmuch, partly due to the
+language bindings to the library.
+
+
+ Thanks, quite helpful.
+
+ Johnny
+ --
+
+
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