From: http://kerravonsen.dreamwidth.org/ Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 23:09:59 +0000 (+0000) Subject: response to Joey and smcv X-Git-Tag: 3.20100427~207^2~3 X-Git-Url: http://git.tremily.us/?a=commitdiff_plain;h=121405e8aa80e7ceb5283b0ff8c9865458a6dd52;p=ikiwiki.git response to Joey and smcv --- diff --git a/doc/plugins/contrib/field/discussion.mdwn b/doc/plugins/contrib/field/discussion.mdwn index 646a5f3f4..b243e2dfe 100644 --- a/doc/plugins/contrib/field/discussion.mdwn +++ b/doc/plugins/contrib/field/discussion.mdwn @@ -21,7 +21,9 @@ behaviour, an auxiliary plugin would be easy.) >> (like `map`). Is your plan that `meta` should register itself by >> default, and `map` and friends should be adapted to >> work based on `getfield()` instead of `$pagestate{foo}{meta}`, then? ->> + +>>> Based on `field_get_value()`, yes. That would be my ideal. Do you think I should implement that as an ikiwiki branch? --[[KathrynAndersen]] + >> (On the site I mentioned, I'm using an unmodified version of `field`, >> and currently working around the collision by tagging books' pages >> with `bookauthor` instead of `author` in the YAML.) --s @@ -94,6 +96,7 @@ field-etc branch in git://git.pseudorandom.co.uk/git/smcv/ikiwiki.git (gitweb: --[[smcv]] > Can do for the field plugin (delete one line? Easy.) Will push when I get to a better connection. --[[KathrynAndersen]] +>> Done! -K.A. ---- @@ -109,3 +112,16 @@ belonging to the meta plugin, and generalizing that to be able to access info stored by other plugins too. (But I don't see any other plugins that currently store such info). Then too, it raises points of confusion like smcv's discuission of field author vs meta author above. --[[Joey]] + +> The point is exactly in the generalization, to provide a uniform interface for accessing structured data, no matter what the source of it, whether that be the meta plugin or some other plugin. + +> There were a few reasons for this: + +>1. In converting my site over from PmWiki, I needed something that was equivalent to PmWiki's Page-Text-Variables (which is how PmWiki implements structured data). +>2. I also wanted an equivalent of PmWiki's Page-Variables, which, rather than being simple variables, are the return-value of a function. This gives one a lot of power, because one can do calculations, derive one thing from another. Heck, just being able to have a "basename" variable is useful. +>3. I noticed that in the discussion about structured data, it was mired down in disagreements about what form the structured data should take; I wanted to overcome that hurdle by decoupling the form from the content. +>4. I actually use this to solve (1), because, while I do use ymlfront, initially my pages were in PmWiki format (I wrote (another) unreleased plugin which parses PmWiki format) including PmWiki's Page-Text-Variables for structured data. So I needed something that could deal with multiple formats. + +> So, yes, it does cater to mostly my personal needs, but I think it is more generally useful, also. +> --[[KathrynAndersen]] +