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+The idea behind sending the test first is that people can see that it fails\r
+and that the subsequent patch indeed fixes it. What I find works well is t=\r
+o\r
+submit the test case with the test marked as broken and then the main patch=\r
+,\r
+including the change to un-mark it as broken.\r
+On Sep 9, 2011 5:45 AM, "Thomas Schwinge" <thomas@schwinge.name> wrote:\r
+> Hi!\r
+>\r
+> On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 11:06:34 +0200, Louis Rilling <l.rilling@av7.net>\r
+wrote:\r
+>> On 05/09/11 12:31 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:\r
+>> > Also, we generally prefer to have modifications to the test suite in\r
+>> > separate patches that precede the patches that add the features/fix th=\r
+e\r
+>> > bugs.\r
+>> >\r
+>>\r
+>> For new features, this does not look like 'git bisect'-safe.\r
+>\r
+> Exactly my thoughts. I can perhaps see the usefulness (for first\r
+> separately committing the testcase) for bugfixes, but why for new\r
+> features?\r
+>\r
+>> I would say that\r
+>> the testsuite patch should follow the new feature patch, don't you?\r
+>\r
+> I would keep them together; why separate them?\r
+>\r
+>\r
+> Gr=FC=DFe,\r
+> Thomas\r
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+<p>The idea behind sending the test first is that people can see that it fa=\r
+ils and that the subsequent patch indeed fixes it.=A0 What I find works wel=\r
+l is to submit the test case with the test marked as broken and then the ma=\r
+in patch, including the change to un-mark it as broken.</p>\r
+\r
+<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 9, 2011 5:45 AM, "Thomas Schwinge&qu=\r
+ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:thomas@schwinge.name">thomas@schwinge.name</a>>=\r
+; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">> Hi!<br>> <br>> On Fri, 9 Sep 20=\r
+11 11:06:34 +0200, Louis Rilling <<a href=3D"mailto:l.rilling@av7.net">l=\r
+.rilling@av7.net</a>> wrote:<br>\r
+>> On 05/09/11 12:31 -0700, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote:<br>>> =\r
+> Also, we generally prefer to have modifications to the test suite in<b=\r
+r>>> > separate patches that precede the patches that add the feat=\r
+ures/fix the<br>\r
+>> > bugs.<br>>> > <br>>> <br>>> For new feat=\r
+ures, this does not look like 'git bisect'-safe.<br>> <br>> E=\r
+xactly my thoughts. I can perhaps see the usefulness (for first<br>> se=\r
+parately committing the testcase) for bugfixes, but why for new<br>\r
+> features?<br>> <br>>> I would say that<br>>> the testsu=\r
+ite patch should follow the new feature patch, don't you?<br>> <br>&=\r
+gt; I would keep them together; why separate them?<br>> <br>> <br>\r
+> Gr=FC=DFe,<br>> Thomas<br></div>\r
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