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+Subject: Re: [PATCH] test: initial tests for smime\r
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+Jameson Graef Rollins <jrollins@finestructure.net> writes:\r
+\r
+> For some reason PATCH 3/4 no longer applies after substituting in this\r
+> patch as PATCH 1/4.\r
+\r
+Ah, I guess I need to send the whole series again.\r
+\r
+>\r
+> But do we really need to test the message output of openssl? It seems\r
+> like it's broken, and if it ever gets fixed we'll need to change this\r
+> test.\r
+\r
+I think it's not so much broken as "canonical". There is some discussion\r
+in the openssl-smime man page that pointed me to RFC5751\r
+para 3.1.1\r
+\r
+ MIME entities of major type "text" MUST have both their line endings\r
+ and character set canonicalized. The line ending MUST be the pair of\r
+ characters <CR><LF>\r
+\r
+> But all we really care about is that openssl is properly verifying the\r
+> message, yes? Why not just test that and forget about the rest of\r
+> openssl's output?\r
+\r
+Maybe it doesn't add too much as long as the message is using the "clear\r
+signed" multipart/signed format. On the other hand there is an opaque\r
+signed format (application/pkcs7-mime with Signeddata) too, where it\r
+would be interesting to check for mangling of the text. Similarly, when\r
+we add a similar test for encryption, I think we do want to check the\r
+content, so we'll have to figure this out at some point.\r
+\r
+Cheers,\r
+\r
+d\r