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+ Thu, 04 Aug 2016 09:35:21 -0700 (PDT)\r
+From: Jani Nikula <jani@nikula.org>\r
+To: Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: Flat search and threaded views\r
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+Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 19:33:58 +0300\r
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+On Thu, 04 Aug 2016, Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> wrote:\r
+> Hi everyone, I'm experimenting with notmuch-emacs.el (straight from\r
+> git), and I have a few questions after a few days of testing.\r
+>\r
+> The search buffer packs messages in threads by default. Is there a way\r
+> to have a flat list of strictly matching messages when needed?\r
+\r
+Just the command-line interface, AFAIK.\r
+\r
+> For example, for a query like "tag:unread AND date:24h..now", I'm shown\r
+> all threads containing unread messages within the last day, which is\r
+> perfect. But when I select a thread (with RET), I'm shown the thread\r
+> from the start.\r
+>\r
+> I'd like to jump directly to the first unread message (and in detail, to\r
+> the first message that actually matches the query!). It's really not\r
+> great to have to find what message matched the query, especially for\r
+> long-running threads.\r
+\r
+For me, hitting RET in search does show the first matching message in\r
+the thread.\r
+\r
+> Another odd behavior I get as a result is that you obviously need to\r
+> select the unread message explicitly to remove the unread tag.\r
+\r
+The idea is that the unread tag gets dropped when the cursor visits the\r
+region of an expanded message, in an approximation of when the user has\r
+actually read the message. We spent quite a bit of time on this, and at\r
+least I like this behaviour very much, especially with the red\r
+overstrike on the unread tag in the buffer.\r
+\r
+If you want to remove unread tags without actually reading the messages\r
+(why would you want to do that?), you should probably tag the messages\r
+some other way.\r
+\r
+> Applying tags to _individual_ messages is similarly weird, as you\r
+> cannot do that from the search view (they would apply to the entire\r
+> thread). Maybe I'm missing a better way here.\r
+\r
+I suppose we could use a feature to tag matching messages from the\r
+search view and expanded messages from the show view. You can of course\r
+do this on the command-line.\r
+\r
+> Tree view is only marginally better in both scenarios.\r
+>\r
+> You can start a tree search with 'z', but is there a way to make\r
+> searches from the notmuch-hello box into tree by default?\r
+\r
+Click [edit] on the saved searches, customize Search Type for each query\r
+you want to use non-default search for. You can also hit 'Z' in both the\r
+search buffer and the show buffer to display them in the tree view.\r
+\r
+In general, '?' will display nice help in almost all notmuch buffers.\r
+\r
+> Is there a way to sort the search (either tree/search) by subject or\r
+> by author? Rarely useful, but it doesn't seem possible.\r
+\r
+I don't think so.\r
+\r
+\r
+BR,\r
+Jani.\r