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+From: Mark Walters <markwalters1009@gmail.com>\r
+To: David Edmondson <dme@dme.org>, notmuch@notmuchmail.org\r
+Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/2] emacs: show: redesign unread/read logic\r
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+On Fri, 09 May 2014, David Edmondson <dme@dme.org> wrote:\r
+> On Fri, May 09 2014, Mark Walters wrote:\r
+>> This is v4 of this set. v3 is at id:1395777793-13297-1-git-send-email-markwalters1009@gmail.com\r
+>>\r
+>> David (dme) was not keen on the logic in the previous patch so I have\r
+>> tried to make it rather more customisable and made this version much\r
+>> closer to the existing logic.\r
+>>\r
+>> This version marks the current message read if it is open. It doesn't\r
+>> care how you get there: whether it is notmuch commands n/N/p/P next\r
+>> message etc, emacs commands like scroll up, mouse clicks etc.\r
+>>\r
+>> The only proviso is it will only mark a message read once (in a single\r
+>> buffer and between refreshes) as otherwise it is impossible for a user\r
+>> to choose to mark a message unread.\r
+>\r
+> This version looks good to me, thanks for considering the feedback.\r
+\r
+Hi\r
+\r
+Thanks for looking and testing.\r
+\r
+>> I, personally, like my previous logic much more. But with this setup\r
+>> that can be customized easily in my .emacs (we may choose to add other\r
+>> options into mainline later). Also I think this series fixes all of\r
+>> the problems with the current read/unread logic mentioned in\r
+>> id:87a9atmpkf.fsf@qmul.ac.uk are fixed.\r
+>\r
+> Just to confirm: you can get your desired behaviour by writing an\r
+> alternative `notmuch-show-mark-read-function'?\r
+\r
+Yes I can confirm that. So if this went in I can get the behaviour of\r
+the earlier series without needing to patch notmuch.\r
+\r
+We can decide later if we want to include it (and other possible mark\r
+read functions) as an option, or as a contrib file, or just on the wiki.\r
+\r
+Best wishes\r
+\r
+Mark\r
+\r